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Bird in Flight Sample Video 1

Hi all. Please take a look at this video and let me know what you think of this as a teaching aid. Questions, comments, etc…

  • Does this help you with questions on acquiring focus on birds in flight?
  • How do you like the view through the camera? Or would you rather just see me on the screen talking about it?
  • Would you like more discussion based videos or more videos like this where you can see exactly what my camera sees?
  • Any other thoughts?

Thank you!ย – Matt

407 Comments

  1. Derek

    Matt, I think you are adding some great advice and pointers to this course. As mentioned many times by others birds in flight require practice and a knowledge of predictable behaviors from your bird subject. Wind direction, feeding characteristics, flight patterns and other species behaviors are all just as important for success. Enjoy and keep up the great content for the community.

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  2. Tim Clifton

    Great information Matt, and thanks for letting us preview it. No additional comments from what has already been said. Thanks again. Tim

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  3. Michael Davis

    As mainly a bird photographer, and within that set a BIF photographer, I can provide a couple of comments. Unfortunately, they are all very positive and not really “improvement” comments.

    1. Making a course like this is challenging because you naturally want your audience as large as possible. That means you want NOT just the novice but also the photographer who is more intermediate. You’re probably not going to get the advanced people. So, what I like in THIS video is you touch on what I would consider to be more intermediate concepts. Further, more and more people (including myself) are moving from DSLR to mirrorless and one of THE most popular mirrorless wildlife cameras is Sony and Sony’s birding lens for the majority of users is the 200-600mm. So, this tip is immediately useful for a big “chunk” of bird photographers right off the bat. I’m going to purchase your course as soon as it’s available and hoping it will be full of these intermediate procedures.
    2. I like it that you are NOT focusing on “here’s a great image” – but rather “here’s a great technique”. Both of the techniques you show in this teaser are very useful and ESPECIALLY for the many who use the 200-600.
    3. One thought – some of us use the Sony 600mm. I know you have this lens. I struggle at times with this lens for acquiring the bird. Although it’s not a lens many have, you might try to find a way to work in acquisition tips for the prime shooters.

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    • Matt

      Thanks Michael. I definitely DO NOT want advanced people buying this course. Trust me… I have plenty of them commenting and telling me what I should include in the course. That’s plenty of “advanced” people for me ๐Ÿ˜‰

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      • Richard Provost

        Matt I also agree with Michael. Everything you showed and spoke about is important info for people getting into bird photography. Im a Nikon shooter so I’m not sure if what I’m about to say is correct. What I saw, seems to show a seven point tracking. Is this correct? Also, if you don’t talk about it in your video, I would encourage you to do so. With my Nikon Z6ii. It took me several outings before I found the best focus setup for my camera.

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  4. Dale Elliott

    Great information Matt! being able to see what you are doing in the view finder is a great help seeing how it works !! thanks

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  5. Linda

    The video showing what you and your camera are seeing is a great help. I feel that is the way to go.

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  6. Marilyn Holloway

    Hi Matt! 1. I agree that acquiring focus on something in the distance is the way to gain focus on the bird in flight. If it’s a large bird, I first focus on whatever the bird is somewhat near – a telephone pole, tree tops, tree trunk, roof of a building etc. Then as I move the camera to hunt the bird, it’s much easier to lock focus on it and track it coming closer. If it’s a little bird like a hummingbird, I focus on a large flower or leaf or small group of flowers or more often the edge of a feeder somewhere near the bird. When I focus on the feeder edge, then it’s easy to track the little one as it flies from flower to flower. That makes for awesome shots, and it works with both my fixed lens and my zoom lens.
    2. My choice is more video through your view finder. Cool
    3. More videos where we see what your camera sees is awesome.
    Thanks for all your wonderful videos!

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  7. Tim Hammar

    Hi Matt. I anxiously await the new course. Your use of ‘through the camera’ in the video is very welcome. I especially like your emphasizing the need to practice, practice, and then practice more. BIF is very challenging . I recently upgraded my gear (much better autofocus capabilities), which will allow me to more ably use your techniques. Please keep up the good work.

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  8. ANDY ROYCE

    Matt, Something that trips me up sometimes using my Sony 200-600mm is making sure that my lens switches are set for what I am trying to do…as you know this lens has a focal range switch in addition to AF/MF switch, a steady shot switch and a steady shot mode switch. Getting these switches set for the task at hand has sometimes tripped me up especially when I change from a subject sitting still and relatively close to a BIF that is farther away. I have missed many shots because of focal lock issues that you talk about where the lens shows a blurred subject and getting it to lock on is frustrating. I find myself frustrated sometimes because I can’t find the right focus area for the BIF…Wide usually does not work so I start with zone and/or center. Zone usually works the best for BIF but sometimes Fexible Spot works. All depends on the subject, how close they are, how big they are how fast they are moving.

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    • Matt

      Hi Andy. Everything you said is perfectly normal and only solved by practice… And even then it still happens to me. For example I had my Focus Range limiter on by accident last week. If something isn’t working, then learning to troubleshoot fast is the only thing and that only comes from practice. And there is no one perfect Focus Area. Often I have to use several to get the results I want. Thanks!

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    • Cecelia M Laurendeau

      Hi Matt, A+ Really good teaching tool using your viewfinder. Seeing is comprehending. Awesome tip about zooming out to locate the BIF – then zoom in – cool! Thanks for that. My 150-600m BIF lens focus limiter is always set to Full, VC off on tripod. Second camera carried with shorter lens for any chirpers that may be closer in.

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    • Alex Mavrogordato

      I’ll echo the praise for the through-the-viewfinder videos when explaining your techniques. An important issue is acquiring the focus points, particularly for those who do not shoot with the Sony or Olympus bodies that have bird tracking capability (myself included). They may represent the majority of your viewers.

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      • Matt

        Hi Alex. Thanks! Just curious… what “bird tracking” capabilities did you see in this video that your camera doesn’t have? I don’t believe I mentioned anything about specific bird tracking. Best!

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  9. Patrick Montocchio

    Hi Matt,
    I like the way we can ‘see through the camera’s viewfinder’ while you explain the technique. I would just like to add 2 things:
    1. What is your advice about VR while on a tripod, monopod and handholding ? What effects doaes it have on finding the bird in the viewfinder, focusing and maintaining focus. Does the image stabilization help ?
    2. I find that in practice, zooming on the bird ‘after’ acquiring focus takes just too long. Either I miss some potential shots or by the time I am zoomed-in, the bird is flying away from me or behind a tree. So, just a few words and some practical illustration on how to ‘train’ to properly aim for the bird at 500 or 600mm would be a nice topic for the more ‘advanced’ shooter.
    Thanks for your great videos.

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    • N.L. Roberts

      Hi Matt~~

      View through camera will be a great teaching aid. I would think that the “picture worth a” etc. applies here and will enable more people to relate to whatever you are discussing on a much more visceral level~~~Sort of a hey that’s exactly what I see & can’t figure out why~~~

      I’m sure, people who are not used to the larger zoom lenses often find that lack of acquisition blur issue and have no idea why it is occuring or how to avoid it.

      The basics of how to handle/& issues involved W/the use of long lenses is key for getting bird and wildlife images. I’m sure you will include the atmospheric issues as well.

      I vote more through the lens videos~~~You might even do a short segment at the end showing a issue W/a what’s happening & how would you resolve it quiz~~~or you could even start out your videos showing some issue that you will be addressing/solving in the video.

      Nothing can be more frustrating to someone than not seeing what they expected to see happen and having no idea why or how to solve the issue.

      Anyone can stand/sit in front of a perfect image & discourse about how they got the image~~~Seeing through the camera is Clarifying exactly what was involved with the acquisition of the image~~!!!

      Look forward to how your new courses shape up~~~ Thanks

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    • James Van Ells

      I like it! Simple and yet effective tools for finding BIFs. When there is a pause in the action, you might want to mention checking the focusing square. Some cameras move them to the right or left and this will cause frustrations. When checking focus, also check where the focus point (square) has come to rest. Then put it back in the middle of the field of view.

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    • Jack Putnam

      Excellent format. I think for anyone, novice or experienced, seeing exactly what your are seeing before and at the time you pressed the shutter is very different from having you just explain it to them looking at the final image-i.e. usual lecture technique. I’m impressed at the work you put in to set up a camera system to photograph exactly what you are seeing through the viewfinder. Great approach and I would expect it to work very well as an instructional tool for you in your classes.

      Comment on using one or both eyes. I find using both eyes invaluable for shooting any moving object, especially if you can not tell exactly where it is and have to anticipate it’s course (exc.-marine mammals), but also erratically flying birds. If I can see something coming toward the camera’s field of view before it gets there, I may start shooting before the subject is actually in the field; often if it is in the field when I first see it, I’m too late. Does take practice.

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  10. Bernie F.

    The teaching concept of showing what you see in the viewfinder and explaining what you are doing works well for me. I like that idea.

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  11. Robert Tryon

    I believe that seeing the action develop in camera is useful. Trying to just verbally describe a potential problem, would just lead to confusion.

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  12. Dick Golden

    I think the way you acquire focus is solid. If you’re able to use your method while using a BB focus, zooming and supporting a heavy lens, which is the setup I use, then I must try it. Too many misses with what I’ve been doing.

    Also, your prefocus is an excellent idea, but one question- at what point would you start to focus on the bird?

    I much prefer to see through your viewfinder while you’re discussing shooting technique. We get to see that shooting is much trickier than talking about it. Thanks for your good work.

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  13. Salle-Ann-Ann Ehms

    I’m an absolute newbie to BIF and I thought it was pitched exceptionally well.

    I also think that you qualified what you were trying to achieve in this short video excerpt and met that perfectly.

    Thank you for seeking/encouraging feed back in your quest to produce the best training videos that you can. Wishing you well with it all.

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  14. Paula D

    Hey Matt-I do find it helpful to go through these points with a thru-the-lens POV. Helps viewers get a better understanding to actually see what youโ€™re doing.

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  15. Shari Wilkinson

    I very much appreciate the “through the camera lens” view. It made me realize people who take these amazing BIF shots, go through the same motions as do I. It enables the viewer to actually understand, through site, what you are saying. I liked the tip about using something else to acquire focus to help speed the camera’s auto focus tracking.

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  16. ilene hoffman

    Heya Matt! I didn’t find this segment on focus all that helpful, sorry. My issues revolve around focus tracking and I find that it just doesn’t happen; no matter how well I get that “first shot” focused. I use the Tamron 150-600 (on a Nikon D7500 or D7200) and it just won’t keep focus on a moving target. Also, I don’t think many of us have that much sky available to follow a moving subject; i.e. smaller ponds, and not the ocean (which provides a bigger sky, if you know what I mean). I never had much of problem when I used my Sigma 50-500 lens (which is now a doorstop); but the Tamron just doesn’t seem to lock on focus as well.
    Can you address focus settings in more detail to help with the tracking? Someone on Clubhouse told me to see if there is a “group” setting in focus and to try that instead of single point focusing, but I haven’t done that yet. If you look at my eagle shots on Instagram (the 7th photo down and click the tiles icon), I can get about every 3rd shot in focus, which doesn’t give me the sequence I really want. I am very frustrated using this Tamron lens… sigh…. THANK YOU!, ilene

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    • Gloria Anderson

      For me, nothing really new or helpful. I think if someone is just starting out with birds it might be – especially telling them NOT to start zoomed at max. I’d be interested in a breakdown of the rest of the course just to know if it will have anything different than what I already due. Based on this, not so much. It’s helpful, but likely not to anyone who has been shooting birds in flight for sometime.

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    • Matt

      Hi Ilene – if you’re using a spot focus on birds in flight it can be very much luck. Not many people I know can have a bird in flight, close up, and keep one small spot on the bird the entire time. I would bet it’s your AF settings on your camera more than it is the lens you’re using. And whether you have a lot of sky or not, the concept is exactly the same. It doesn’t change if your background is different from mine. There is no magical setting in the camera or setting you can change that says “If it’s sky do this… but if it’s trees and smaller ponds, do this instead”. It boils down to practice… then more practice. And after you do that quite a bit… practice more ๐Ÿ™‚

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  17. R. Beutel

    Do you use back button autofocus? Why or why not?

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    • ilene hoffman

      Ah, good question R. Beutel! ๐Ÿ™‚

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    • Matt

      Hi… I do not. I cover it more in depth in the course, but it has no effect on what you saw in this video. Back button or shutter button focus would give you the same results here. Thanks!

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  18. Joshua Haller

    REALLY like seeing what you see through the camera as you talk about what you do. Being able to show a student what its like in your camera is super helpful! When I used to teach workshops, its so much a concept you try to teach and then see the results. But if I could have been recording what my camera saw and then explain it to the students, that would have been great! Is this a SONY feature?

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  19. Penny Rivait

    Yes! That works very well to see thru your camera.

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    • FRANK SCLAFANI

      1. I FOUND THE ACQUIRING FOCUS HELPFUL

      2. VIEWING THROUGH THE CAMERA REALLY WORKS FOR ME

      3. I FIND YOUR VIDEOS VERY HELPFUL AND WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION BASED VIDEOS

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  20. Dubi Czyzyk

    Hi Dear Matt. It sure helps, even though, it is not new for me. I do so all the time. My question is more about the correct light metering mode for this kind of shooting. there is a big contrast between the bird and the sky. Even if I Start my shooting birst from the middle of the screen, In spot metering mode, after a second, the bird can be in the right corner in focus, but too dark because now the light metering is taken from the sky. Since birds are flying so fast, I can’t always lock the exposure, before shooting.
    What would be your suggestion for this kind of fast shooting?

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  21. Robert Van Maele

    Hi Matt, I was impressed with your explanation and the way you explain this by showing what you do as you see it through the camera!
    Coincidentally, I tried this myself to photograph butterflies in the garden with a lens Sigma 100mm-400mm. Definitely a challenge because of the many unexpected movements! With the techniques you demonstrate and discuss, I can certainly greatly improve mine. It encourages me to continue practicing that way. Thanks for sharing this and help us to improve our skills!

    Looking forward for what comes next…

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  22. Diana

    Yes seeing through the camera was helpful especially as it shows a bird a long way away. I never know how to capture the bird and then close in on it. All my bird pictures get chucked away!

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  23. Linda Treadaway-Martin

    Hello, Matt. Loved the quick BIF instructional video. The opportunity to see through the viewfinder, seeing what you were seeing, while you are giving explanation/instruction is absolutely the way to go. From my experience, being a retired high school science teacher, the majority of people are visual learners, certainly not all, but most. While we can listen to explanation/instruction, nod our heads, and intellectually understand, seeing it while also getting the auditory version, is like a learning “two-fer”, cementing it into our brains.

    To specifically answer your questions:

    1) Yes it did help with understanding acquiring focus.

    2) Love the view through the camera.

    3) Would love more videos like this – seeing what your camera sees.

    4) Other thoughts – were actually mentioned at the beginning
    of this response.

    While BIF are not particularly my genre of photography, I do love all things nature and wildlife such that I can appreciate the talent and artistry of capturing BIF along with the beauty of it. Well done!

    P.S. I didn’t read all the comments before mine, but I did read George Secor’s. His comment regarding target practice and muscle memory are right on.

    P.P.S. Computer issues prevented me from sending this sooner.

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  24. Heather Meintjes

    Hi Matt. I think this is a great hands on way of teaching! Sometimes things sound quite complicated but it makes so much more sense when you are able to see exactly what you mean through your viewfinder. Really looking forward to the course!

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  25. Suresh T.

    A much needed and practical โ€˜how toโ€™ solution to a problem I have always faced. Thank you. I will certainly try this out next time.

    Your method of showing what the camera sees is the best way to explain what you are trying to teach.

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  26. Brenda Fishbaugh

    Matt, EXACTLY what I needed for bird photography. I’ve been grappling with your two mini-issues–full zoom and where is that damn bird??? And get just a wing or something. And stupid focus won’t capture the bird in time!!! So thanks for a few minutes to solve those issues! Definitely buying the course. I had no intention to buy it, as I’m still going through the Lightroom and Photography courses I bought from you, but I think the Luminosity Masking and Birds are gonna be this month’s purchases. You are an awesome teacher!

    I’m in central Florida six months a year and would love to do a workshop or two with you!

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  27. Craig D Plummer

    Hi Matt. I always love your courses. You have the ability to put everything in accurate and understandable terms. I like the video illustrations where possible. One thing you may want to drive home is to take the information and practice, practice, practice. Try to anticipate the take-offs and landings as they tend to make very beautiful images. Keep up the great work that you do!

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  28. Mike Wullaert

    Thanks for sharing the videos.
    – I thought this was helpful in covering methods to acquire focus of birds in flight. I think it would be helpful show more than one camera brand, as Sony has the current reputation for best autofocus.
    – I prefer your through the camera video over you talking about it. (no offense, as I do find your descriptions helpful)
    – I believe describing, then showing is the best method for teaching. If that’s not possible, showing is better in a training video format, as the person can rewatch to better understand the concept.

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  29. Rick Viel

    Matt, With birds in flight do you ever try to focus on the eye/head which would probably require point focus or just let the camera do its thing on the whole body with an area focus philosophy?

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    • Larry Kurfis

      Matt, good. The “pre-focus” is a good one. That will help me. Also the reminder to check and perhaps adjust the focus sensitivity is important too. Hopefully AF sensitivity will be explained. My camera has it but I never remember if I go + or -.

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  30. Les

    Hi Matt…I always like to see how the process actually works and appreciate the gotchas behind it having ‘lived’ thru the in’s and out’s of this actual experience. You always manage to set context as part of your teaching style anyway so that helps me know what to look out for…this is especially helpful in tying off the camera/picture taking process to the pre-editing result and ultimately, I would expect, to the post editing final product…While I don’t do wildlife photography, I do wildlife children photography ;*) so that is how I related to the video…Thx!

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  31. Keith Marlowe

    Because you shot through the lens, I realized I may need to change a setting to “track.” That notion was new. I use a 150 to 600. I zoom it out and focus near where I expect the birds. But I have a difficult time finding them. Seeing is believing. Your approach is very helpful for the learner.

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  32. Roman Schwartz

    Hi Matt. I have used pretty much the same technic you show in your video. It works but it is somewhat slow and not always reliable. Sometimes you may need to do it couple times to get acquisition and that may be too late. Bird is gone… However I found almost magical solution – Olympus DOT SIGHT EAGLE EYE EE-1 (https://www.getolympus.com/us/en/ee-1-dot-sight.html) It made by Olympus but work with any camera which has hot/cold shoe mount. It is NOT connected to the camera in any way (other then mechanically mounted on hot/cold shoe). You calibrate it once with your longest lens and all you do do to acquire BIF – is to put red dot on the bird looking through the dot sight and press autofocus button. Yes, it cost $129 but it worth it in my opinion. It is available on B&H and Amazon.

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  33. Joe Libertini

    Hi Matt,

    I have a 150-600mm Tamron G2, do you think using a Gimbal would make all this BIF photography easier?

    Joe

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    • Matt

      Hi Joe. For me, it doesnโ€™t make birds in flight easier or more reliable. However it does make holding the camera for longer periods of time (which can contribute to better photos) easier. But honestly, I am much more accurate handholding even though it does get tiring after a while. Thanks

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  34. Steven Hayre

    So many comments already so I hope I am not repeating. I shoot Canon 5ds with a 300mm and 1.4 extender. I set one of three programs for 1.6 crop(20mp) for flight, one for 1.4 crop (30mp) for in a tree and one for full frame (50mp). I can not zoom to find the bird in flight, so I find a point to focus on about the distance I expect the bird to be. This normally gets the bird so the autofocus will find it.

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  35. George F Lobien

    Matt, If you’re photographing birds such as we saw in the video, why not put your lens on manual and preset it to infinity? I recently got a magnificent shot of the moon doing that. On automatic focus it was zooming in and out trying to find something on which to lock in.

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    • Matt

      Hi George. That will not work for most bird and wildlife photography. The photos would not be in focus.

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    • John Pomponio

      Matt,

      I thought your advice was very useful. Iโ€™ve experienced both the โ€œfind the birdโ€ and โ€œ focus on the birdโ€ issues. Your through the eyepiece approach works.

      Hereโ€™s another related and short
      topic. Sometimes when my camera (Olympus OMD E M1x)
      tracks my bird subject one or more other birds appear in the viewfinder. This sometimes seems to confuse the camera and me.
      Any experience with that?

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      • Matt

        Hey John. Definitely and it happens all the time. Your camera โ€œshouldโ€ do a good job at locking on to one and there are focus sensitivity settings that can help extend or cut down the delay before it tries to lock on another. Sometimes letting up on the shutter and focusing again can help. And sometimes itโ€™s just not possible to think the camera or us can change or adjust that fast and read minds of what bird we want. Until we can tell it to โ€œstick to this birdโ€, sometimes plain old luck and skill/practice will have to do ๐Ÿ™‚

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  36. Dick Kain

    I agree that seeing thru the lens is effective. I wonder how you change the zoom while still tracking the bird – three hands?

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    • Matt

      Hi. If you watch most people that hold a zoom lens, their non-button hand (left hand for most) is on the zoom ring of the lens which means you can hold/stabilize the lens as well as zoom in and out while shooting.

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      • Selkii D

        I agree the zoom out/zoom in technique is great except for someone like myself with smaller hands. I shoot with an A1/200-600. Even with the short throw of that lens, by the time I adjusted, I would either lose the shot or fall short of full zoom. Rather, Iโ€™ve learned to spot over the barrel before lifting the camera to my eye. Works the majority of the time, whether it is a sitting, but distant subject or BIF. It is a technique worth teaching.

        Demonstrating and showing through the lens would be my choice. This is a visual art and I learn from seeing examples. It would also be helpful to teach how you can judge where the bird will be at a point in its flight. For example, with a diving tern, it can be too fast to follow its dive, but you can judge by where it is hovering where it will strike the water. It is a technique Iโ€™ve seen others use with success but have yet to master.

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  37. Paul H

    Matt,
    I like the video of what you are seeing. Makes it very clear. Assume you are going to use different examples. As you said, those examples are not the greatest. But, the point is the same. The tips for what to do about it are very good.

    Hope the course addresses tips to improve the Speed and Accuracy of acquiring the target. Of course, it is easier to acquire the bird when you can see them visually at a big distance. But, when they fly over your shoulder, or from behind some close trees, etc., it gets much tougher. Tips on what tracking modes, what size focus area and number of spots to use, things like that will be great teaching points. Sony has some great new software for birds that us lesser brand users don’t have. (Too bad that, years ago, I convinced myself that the only reason Sony bought Minolta was to get their copy machine business.) I would have stayed on board otherwise. )

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  38. Linda Trummer-Napolitano

    I use a prime lens for BIF- I have trouble acquiring focus when bird flies up quickly or flies into view quickly.
    Do you cover this at all?

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  39. Michael Stewart

    I found this approach extremely enlightening, Matt. The problems you describe are common and the tips you provide are practical and on target.

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  40. Gerry Heine

    Through the lens video is definitely better than just talking about what you are doing. Look forward to the course.

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  41. Jan L. Mundorff

    Thanks for the opportunity to preview the course. I think seeing the view through the view finder is a great teaching tool. Look forward to another excellent video course.

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  42. DonL

    Two things which I thought about during your video. I shoot with a mirrorless and a DSLR. I would find the ability for one camera over the other to acquire and track is a big difference. How do your adjust for this difference in your technique? I noticed you only focused on birds at a distance… how does your technique change when the bird pops up at a very short distance or flies basically over head? From my experience your demonstrated technique addresses the easiest scenario for bird photographers and BIF and is quite effective. But as the birds get closer things happen faster and more unpredictable.

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    • Matt

      Hi Don. Well, I guess I would suggest that the camera will not find the bird for you right? So the tips in the video are exactly what you would practiceโ€ฆ if things are closer, faster and more random then itโ€™s just harder. The concepts donโ€™t changeโ€ฆ your skill at accomplishing them is what changes and that only comes with practice. Thanks!

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  43. Julie Picardi

    I definitely like seeing what you are doing through the camera. The Sony is amazing how it locks focus on birds in flight. Although I still shoot with my Nikon D500, I find the Sony very impressive. Both concepts of zooming out ahead before zooming in and also the concept of zooming to focus on something distant to help lock in focus apply no matter what camera body is being used. Your teaching aids are very useful for those new to shooting birds in flight.

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  44. Pamela Winter

    Hi Matt. Thanks for the preview. I didn’t hear anything addressing full frame vs. cropped sensor. Just my quick input.

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    • Matt

      Hi Pamela – First, what would crop or full frame change in this scenario? Nothing. Your tips for acquiring focus donโ€™t change based on the sensor. Nextโ€ฆ that topic is covered in the course but just not relevant to a video showing tips on how to quickly acquire a bird in flight. Keep in mind you are seeing 1 video topic from this course, out of about 25-30 ๐Ÿ™‚ Thanks!

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  45. John Klingel

    I already knew the zoom out trick but I agree that it’s great to include in your presentation. Sometimes with very fast and hard to track birds, I stay zoomed out and just crop a lot. Love to know what focus settings your using with Sony A1.

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  46. Chuck

    I too like the thru the lens view teaching aid. The points you cover are ones many of us have come to of necessity and are good to teach as in my case it has taken me way too long to develop. One situation I continue to struggle with occurs when an insect, bird etc has landed and then takes off. AF frequently stays on the flower or perch rather than following the subject. With some tracking or eye detection if the focus spot is restricted to the eye or the subject it works sometime. If the focus square overlaps beyond the subject I think AF thinks the perch is the focus you want and misses the moving subject. How can we improve our hit rate. I use the eye tracking and keep the back button pressed and depress the shutter while still holding the back focus button and keep my fingers crossed.

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  47. MaryBethDaloia

    I know that you are using continuous autofocus but what are you using to set the focus points. Are you using tracking, wide, etc.

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  48. Ray B

    Exactly same technique as I have used for a long time in shooting airshows. Probably the best and simplest method of getting focus quickly.

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  49. Mary Beth Daloia

    I learned a great tip in the first minute of your video. And that was to zoom out to spite your subject first and then zoom in on it once you have locked focus. Also acquiring focus on something thatโ€™s about the same distance away. It really helps to see what you were seeing through your camera viewfinder. I love this way of teaching that you have.

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  50. Paul L

    Seeing the camera view helps to cement the concepts.
    Assuming that the camera is set to continuous auto focus and/or the shutter button ‘half way down sets the focus acquisition. How does using back button focus impact the techniques illustrated if at all?

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    • Matt

      Hi Paul. It doesnโ€™t. Back button doesnโ€™t change your ability to focus quickly or not, or how quickly the camera will lock on.

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  51. Charles Thompson

    Add me to the list of impressed viewers! I have never seen anyone teaching through the camera like this, and it’s a revelation. Excellent teaching method and, even though it’s just an experiment at this point, I learned something today! Thank you, Matt.

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  52. Coralie B

    I think your concept of seeing what the camera sees, and what you are talking about, is much better than watching you talk. Thanks for the tips.

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    • Carol

      Hi Matt, I like the way you explained how to get the focus on the bird. The video was a great way to show what you are talking about.

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  53. Colin Patton

    Hi Matt,

    Hadn’t seen the zooming out then zooming in technique for capturing focus taught elsewhere for bird in flight photography. Looks good and a clear explanation.

    Thanks

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  54. Jane Ruffin

    Very well explained especially focusing on middle distance before trying the find the bird.
    This is helpful in many other instances too.

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  55. Shanti Korathota

    Hi Matt,
    Thanks. You explained the correct way to take the initial baby steps of the complex race.
    The challenge is to progress from here to come up with a beautiful photo.
    The foundation is excellent!

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  56. L Smith

    Hi Matt
    I like your concept of giving us as students the view you have through the lens. The only thing I did not like is when you are speaking and the moment of focus has passed, the student then has a blurry or slightly moving frame out of focus. As you teach I would like something in focus to look at. Thanks for all your hard work!

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  57. Lucinda Clarke

    Hey Matt, although this is not a course for me or the type of camera i have (yet), I really liked the view through the lens point of view. I think it is helpful to see what I should be seeing. That way I am not imagining what I should be seeing. As a beginner, I find that I can imagine lots of incorrect versions ๐Ÿ™‚

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  58. Rob MacWilliam

    If there is any way to show the Zoom level (e.g. 200 mm up to 600 mm on the bottom of the frame rather than the 1/4000 F6.3 etc. it would be a big help in this video clip. I can hear you but i found the shutter speed/aperture distracting when you are trying to make a (very good) point about starting wide and acquiring the bird and then zooming in. Seeing the Zoom value would just emphasize your technique

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  59. Phil Lindsay

    Good concept with bird photographer’s eye view in viewfinder. I would appreciate brief mention of Image Stabilization for BIF. My experience with Nikon D5 System is to avoid IS over 1/1000 sec or so so I generally do not use it for BIF. Is the Sony System similar?

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  60. Robert Wheeler

    Agree with those suggesting good explanation of best focus area choices for various conditions. Also suggest covering the pros and cons of using a teleconverter with a telephoto lens. I would suggest discussing when it is useful to turn tracking off then back on again to reset the focusing efforts. Also, beginners may need to hear advice to start out with birds in slower flight (larger birds, flying against the wind) rather than starting out with swallows darting all over the place.

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    • Mary Lou

      My first thought – aha moments for zooming out to lock on and then zoom in to shoot. The birds are so small and when you zoom in with the 600 lens are they grainy? Like the โ€˜seeing thru the lensโ€™ but agree it would be good to see the distance and not just the speed. Learned a couple of ahas – thank you

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  61. Ken

    Hi Matt I have a Canon 5D mark IV that I have had some nice shots of in flight birds at Nisqually National Park but have been thinking more on mirrorless camera maybe the new one coming from Canon. The reason I think Canon is that I could maybe use some of my Canon lenses without the expense of buying all new lenses. What is your thought on using DSLR lenses virus buying lenses made for the mirrorless camera especially when trying to shoot birds in flight?

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  62. ELIZABETH HICKS

    i LIKE THE WAY YOU PRESENTED THIS. MUCH BETTER THAN JUST TALKING. ITHINK EVERYONE BELOW HAS COVERED JUST ABOUT EVERYTHIN. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE COURSE.

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  63. Mark Svendsen

    Matt,

    Very clear explanation of the very clever zoom out/zoom in tip for acquiring focus of a bird in flight.

    Regarding the second issue (inability of camera to shift focus from a nearby point to a hard-to-see bird in flight) the demo doesn’t seem to match the narrative. You mention taking a quick focus on a distant object before shifting to the bird, but the demo seems to show the camera catching focus on another nearby spot (a road, I think) rather than a more distant object. May want to take another look at that.

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    • Linda Diaz

      Very helpful. I just bought a Canon R6 and it does a great job of focusing on the eye of a bird in flight. I found your video very helpful looking into the display and look for to your course.

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    • Matt

      Hi Mark. Not sure what I said, but the tip is to focus off in the distance. The camera was pre-focussed from the last time I shot on something closer to the frame. So trying to acquire something in the distance wasn’t happening. Thanks.

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  64. Carol Hakobian

    Hi Matt, In response to your comment about mirrorless cameras: I agree the tracking ability in my new Canon R6 is fantastic. However, I recently had an experience at Malibu Lagoon where there are a lot of birds flying in and out constantly. Even with the tracking, there were times, mostly when a bird flew over my head, where the camera still had trouble staying with a dead-on focus. I really liked seeing how you ‘train’ your camera to focus by using other distant objects. I think that will help me a lot. Your new approach to teaching through the camera is what I needed to understand how to do this. Thanks a bunch!

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  65. Klaus Schulze (Germany)

    This manner to educate/train photographers is just the right one. Looking onto the diplay is very helpful – together with your explaination in the background. – I use a Panasonic Lumix G81 and I am fully satisfied by it. But I want to ask you: (1) Should I use a continous autofocus (AFC) for BIF? (2) should I make series shots to catch a good one within a greater number? (3) Do you use manual modus for time and aperture in order to avoid overexposure by the bright sky?

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    • Harry Traeger

      Hi Matt, I think this “through the lens” method of teaching is very effective. It is very helpful to see what you see as you are explaining the lesson. Good luck with your lesson plan.

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  66. Chris Kardos

    Hi Matt. There is not a lot I can add to the many great comments and questions already posted. But I would like to emphasize that I hope you can provide as much detail as possible for those who shoot Canon and Nikon, especially the higher end models. (I have a Canon 5D Mark IV.) And any thoughts you may have on mirrorless vs DSLR for birds in flight would also be appreciated. Thanks, and keep up the great work.

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    • Matt

      Hi Chris. I’ll keep this short and simple. My opinion (I’ll stress “my”) here is that at this point if you’re using a DSLR for birds in flight you are hurting your keeper rate. Mirrorless in both Sony and Canon have surpassed DSLR when it comes to most wildlife and bird photographers. They are just too good. If you can afford it, moving to a mirrorless camera will improve your photography. I hate to say its’ about the gear… but sometimes (especially bird photography), it’s not about the gear… until it’s about the gear ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • Robert Amoruso

        I am in 100% agreement here Matt, gear makes the difference. One of the reasons Canon DSLRs became synonymous with BIF was not necessarily autofocus, but image stabilization in long lens. Once Nikon caught up, that was less true. Now, mirrorless is where it is at. A long time Canon shooter for BIF since 2005, I started getting more serious with my landscape photography in the past 6 years so now using a Sony A7R4. Even that with the Sony 200-600mm lens gives me more keepers then my Canon 1D Mark IV. Looking forward to getting the Sony A1 for BIF. Great content in your video Matt.

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    • Roger Ahrens

      Bird photography is tough. Certainly there is a need for instruction like you shared with us. To make this short, I agree with Diane K’s input. You’re frank to the point type of teaching method with rationalization of why you recommend certain methods always works for me. Keep up the good work.

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  67. Diane Knappenberger

    I agree with the majority of commenters that this way of teaching is really great because we get to see what you see. I would add that having a complementary video that shows what you “do” would be equally useful. We can see where your hands are, what you are doing when, what buttons are you pressing etc. The two videos would go together so not only do we see what you see, but we also see what you do. Even though I don’t shoot Sony this would be the perfect one-two punch for someone just starting to try BIF photography!

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  68. GRACE BRYANT

    Hi Matt, This is a great initative for teaching and shows the benefits of a zoom lens in comparison to the small field of view of the long primes with the difficulties in finding the bird in the frame. I have practiced and get reasonable success with both eyes open and bringing the prime to my eyes at the last possible moment. I am about to change over to Sony and wondered if you have any clout with them to produce a 300mm f2.8 prime as the weight, size and price of the bigger primes is way over the top. It is so much easier to travel with a 300 plus extenders and I would make the switch in a flash if they make a 300mm.
    Thanks for your videos they are always helpful.

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    • Jan

      I like the idea of teaching from the view through your camera it is the clearest way to understand what you are trying to convey.

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    • Matt

      Hi Grace. First, if you would be so kind and if you do switch to Sony (and go through B&H photo) I’d great appreciate if you use my links at mattk.com/gear. Thanks!
      Next… I don’t have any clout on what they make – and honestly I would never want them to (personally). 300mm doesn’t even come close to being long enough for me and for most wildlife. But they have specs, stats and everything on what sells. If a 300mm prime will sell, my guess is they’ll make one.

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  69. Joe Dostal

    I like the concept of teaching through the camera as we can all relate to the problems you are showing. Then I assume you will show us how to resolve the problems the same way.
    As I only have a 70 to 300mm lens could you show the results you have when you are at say 200-300. What shots should you not bother taking as your kit won’t handle it, especially when you come to post production and cropping , only to find out that the bird is not sharp because it really was too far away for your lens you have.

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  70. Wanda

    I like this idea – to see what you are seeing and then follow through with instructions. I love bird photography but I’m not very successful at acquiring focus – yet! looking forward to the course

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  71. Christina Rivera

    Let me answer as a beginner to bird photography as most of your responses seem to be from experienced photographers. I was able to understand the concept, aided greatly by looking through your camera. Much better than just hearing. Two senses. I agree with a prior response, handling the camera, tracking and focusing all at the same time will take practice….muscle memory, but with the steps outlined, I at least will know what to practice.

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  72. Jeff Ross

    Hi Matt:

    Yes, very interesting concepts indeed! I think this is the first time I have seen it done this way so I think you are on to something unique.

    A couple of additional questions which may or may not be of use to you as you continue to develop the course.

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    When tracking birds with binoculars, birders spot the object with their eyes and then bring the binos up to their eyes where the bird should be “approximately” in view. Are you watching without the camera and then raising the camera to your eye so the bird is approximately in view through the camera at the start? Or…are you watching via the viewfinder “hunting” for the bird with the camera as your sighting mechanism?

    Can you lock the focus while waiting for the bird to come into view and then release and re-acquire focus once the bird is spotted in the viewfinder or is that too slow?

    Good luck with the course!

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  73. Jim Kurovsky

    Matt,

    I like where this course is going. I have one thought that has helped me that may be helpful to others. It is possible you have already introduced this in an early part of the instructions as you mentioned.

    Most cameras have memory settings to help get a photographer to the approximate settings for a specific situation. I found that if you are photographing birds, setting 2 different memory settings can increase the number of ‘keepers’. One setting is for birds at rest (slower shutter speed and possibly different focusing points), and a memory for birds in flight (fast shutter speed, wide open f, etc). With the excitement of trying to capture a bird going from resting to flight usually requiring several camera setting changes that can mean missing the shot. Memory settings make the changes quickly.

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  74. Pete Myers

    Thanks, Matt. Well done. A very promising approach. While I’ve been with you in the field as you were using these tools and methods (Costa Rica) and listened to you walk through it, seeing it through your viewfinder makes the teaching more vivid and memorable. The one thing I would stress is that this takes muscle memory to execute well. Even with the best visual explanation, it will take Steph Curry (and Matt Kloskowski) style practice practice practice. Find a place where there are lots of birds flying, even if it is a garbage dump or just Canada geese, and practice practice practice. Use up all those electrons and put a fresh battery in.

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  75. Patrik Berger

    Love the recording of the viewfinder as a teaching aide. It makes it much easier to relate to ie what I see in my viewfinder is also displayed in what I see in your viewfinder. The issues that I have and see are not unique to me or my gear. We all struggle with the same problems to some degree. I think this technique will be one of the main differentiating features that make your course stand apart from many of the other bird photography courses out there.

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    • Rick Martelo

      Hi Matt, I do fair amount of wildlife/bird photography living on the beach. Acquiring the bird already in flight and waiting for the correct time to shoot can be puzzling. Do you suggest blasting the shutter? I like your approach of demonstrating thru the lens but at the same time a narrative on what you are actually doing at that moment to keep it focused. I know you are always stating to focus tight and not crop, but how tight on a moving object. I like seeing the actually demo and then going back and illustrate why and what you did at each moment.

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      • Matt

        Hi Rick. I will always suggest filling the frame as much as possible. But don’t confuse that with “focus tight”. If you go in too tight you will miss shots and clip wings, heads, tails etc… I 100% crop (sometimes heavily) all of my wildlife photos. And yes, sometimes it’s just about blasting the shutter. You can watch and learn about the wildlife and try to anticipate. And sometimes when I think something is gonna happen I just hold the shutter down to see ๐Ÿ™‚

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  76. Joe Howard

    Matt, this is excellent! Seeing what you were doing while also listening to you describe your thoughts and actions, adds a whole new dimension to your teaching and its effectiveness. I look forward to more usage of this methodology.

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  77. Mike Brown

    Excellent approach. I also would be interested in the Sony Deep Dive focus course you mentioned. I assume that, as subscribers, we will be notified when this course is released.

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  78. Bill Tucker

    Interesting concept of teaching.

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  79. Richard Burbidge

    Matt, I see you have tons of comments and I didn’t look at them all.
    Perhaps I missed it, but you can eye the bird in the viewfinder while using the other eye to look down the lens at the bird.
    It can help track that elusive target. Not so great if you are left eye dominant.

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  80. Merrie Asimow

    Thanks, Matt. Boy, I sure have the same problem and then I will take the camera away from my eye and try to find it again. It takes too much time and then I’m just watching the bird flying away. Watching through your lens and working with your tip will make it much easier. I’m looking forward to your course.

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  81. Carl Ackerman

    Definitely helps seeing it this way. I think you will find lots of ways to use this that will help viewers understand easier. I could see being used to help zoom in and find nice compositions in a busy landscape scene.

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  82. Guy Huntley

    This is one of the most concise ways to explaining target acquisition I’ve seen. Well done and very innovative.

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  83. Ian Braithwaite

    Hi Matt, Fantastic concept and this is exactly the sort of technical stuff I really appreciate when learning from others. We see what you see is the best way of learning in my view and as you identify obstacles/issues whilst taking your shot we learn how to deal with it or avoid it rather than having the issue later down the track and not knowing what to do. Love your idea and think it is a great way of teaching others.

    Have a great day and appreciate what you do for others! ๐Ÿ™‚

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  84. Doug Tomczak

    I think what you are showing is better than just talking you thru it. I do this already so it is nice to see someone of your talent does this too. Great teaching video

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  85. Jim Whittle

    You mentioned setting the zoom at 200mm and then zooming to 600mm as you capture the image. I hand hold the lens for BIF and rest my left hand on the zoom control. If I have acquired the bird with autofocus and it flies toward me, I can reduce the zoom so if the bird gets too close, I can back off and still fill the frame.It works for me and saves landing bird shots.

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    • Stephen Levin

      Great and easily understood idea. It came just in time. Now I can jump into my F18 and targeet some UAPs for the Pentagon. ๐Ÿ™‚

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  86. Paul

    Is this course going to include photo editing? Photoshop, ON1, perhaps other photo editing programs?

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    • Matt

      Hi Paul. No it wonโ€™t. I have already done an editing course at mattk.com/wildlife
      Thanks.

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  87. Tom Gilmore

    Yes Matt, your course does interest me. I have been into bird photography and specifically BIF. The couple of tips you provided are really great and look forward to more. It is really one of the most difficult challenges to pan and track a bird in flight. I have been taking some bird tours with Ron who lives here in Florida and you can check out his site at whistling Wings Photography https://www.whistlingwingsphotography.com/. I am the leader of our local Treasure Coast Photography Group and am wondering if you might be interested in coming over to speak to our group here in Stuart Florida? I am sure a future presentation by you to our group would give you more applicants for some of your courses. We have about 85 members and meet the last Thursday evening of the month. At this time we are holding off on in person meetings due to Covid infections increasing. Perhaps a live Zoom talk might be something we could work out so you would not have to come here?

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  88. David Crussana

    Matt, That was a very informative video. It is an excellent training device. Great work. I’m looking forward to the entire course.

    Thanks

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  89. Malcolm Jeffries

    Hi Matt i would never have thought about doing it this way i usually fumble about and end up missing the shot definitely something i’ll be having a go at tomorrow as we have a massive aray of birds all day long were i live, I’ll also be looking into weather i’ve got the tracking option on my camera thank’s for the info

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  90. Terry

    I think the “through the lens” approach is excellent. This lets us actually see what we should be trying to replicate on our own. Much better than just watching you and listening to you describe what we should be seeing.

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  91. David Pickles

    Matt – these concepts will be very helpful and the through the lens viewpoint is an excellent teaching tool. I’ve had many of the same issues and have used some of the techniques you described and they have helped. One question that comes to mind – and this may end up being camera brand specific, but how many focus points (group) works best for acquiring focus in flight? I am still experimenting with different settings to find what works best with my Nikon cameras. Also, something I’m looking into is saving certain settings into a custom menu and maybe setting a button to apply those settings – again concept may apply across camera brands, but the specifics may be different. Reason for this is that I often find myself at a location where I’m shooting birds that are relatively still (wading, fishing in a pond, etc.) and then notice some bird(s) in flight. I will want to be able to change camera setup very quickly and I think this may help. I haven’t done this yet, it’s a concept I want to look into.

    As always – I appreciate your teaching style and your content is always strong!

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    • Micheal Pociecha

      I certainly agree with this concept of a still sitting bird settings and then I programmed a button for quick access as a bird takes off to get the settings I need for that. Itโ€™s quicker than switching to a programmed number on the top dial. Especially on the Sony.
      Looks as though it is going to be a great training tool.

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  92. Jim Campbell

    Thanks Matt. Very interesting technique. Lots of practice required here.Really helpful.

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  93. Jon Pinnington

    Works for me! I was wondering if you were using a tripod or monopod, but I guess you would have covered that earlier. It’s good to see the difficulties that are encountered along the way, which the “finished” photograph never gives you. These techniques would also be useful for airshow photography, which I like doing.

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  94. Jeff Goulden

    Photographing birds in flight has always been a challenge for me. I have a Nikon 80-400 and it focuses rather slowly. Your suggestion to “acquire” the bird at 80mm and then zoom in after acquisition is very helpful. I will be sure to try that next time. Also, I like your technique of showing a demo through the lens of the camera.

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  95. Josรฉ

    Great video… as you always do!

    I have the issue when photographing small birds i.e. warblers sparrows with tree backgrounds or bushes I can’t find the subject because I always have my Zoom lens set at 600mm. I don’t know why I never thought of this technique before I primarily use the 200 – 600 Sony G zoom lens and technique shown in this video using said lens is so much easier faster and better.

    BTW your Wildlife course is so awesome and very highly recommended to my “birders” photographers (your name as in MattK is always getting mentioned amongst us).

    Thank you.

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  96. Jim humble

    The through the lens method, is a great idea. I think you are on to something, it shows exactly what you are teaching. You are on to a great idea, looking forward to your class.

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  97. Bruce Terrill

    Hey Matt,
    Using the video catch from your camera is waay ahead of what everyone else is teaching but it shouldn’t be a ‘Light on’ moment for these other guys, they already should be using it. Video has been around for long enough but they are all sheep and until someone breaks the ice (You) the sheep will blindly follow those who they think are leading the pack.
    It’s something that is a great teaching aid and I personally congratulate you on being the first to bring it to the table.
    NOW sit back and watch all the sheep fall into line and follow. You have done more for Bird Photography in a couple of short years than those ‘Mavericks’ who are supposed to be the ones breaking new ground for us.
    Well done mate.
    Bruce.

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  98. e.Yiu

    Love it. It will help a lot of people. I would like to see adding additional thoughts on when I’m using a fixed focal length lens such as a 500mm, or a 500mm with a 1.4 adapter. I quite often experienced the lens “searching”, or where in the sky should I aim the 500mm to ??

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  99. Judy C

    Matt, I see you already have many responses. I liked the video looking thru your camera lens, it clarified your description of what was happening. I always learn more than I expect in your courses and videos. Looking forward to the new BIF course.

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    • Cassandra Buckles

      I’m a visual person when it comes to learning. So with teaching with video while explaining the process would be a great way to help visual learners like me.

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      • Kathy Triolo

        Late to the party and I agree with whatโ€™s been said already. I love the โ€œthrough the lensโ€ teaching technique and think itโ€™s really a nice partner to your verbal discussion of what youโ€™re doing.

        I never considered myself a โ€œbird photographer โ€œ but this past year, itโ€™s been a fun activity as I just discovered Sand Hill Cranes (yeah, once again late to the party)
        I use the very technique youโ€™re teaching with great success so this is a perfect tip for beginners.
        Keep up the great work Matt!

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  100. Richard Duckworth

    I like the concepts you present here. Also the video demonstration helps. I look forward to the course.

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  101. Dan Kelleher

    I too like the “through the lens” video. It feels “hands-on” without being out on location with you. Great tips, and I already learned something new (the zoom in – zoom out part… D’oh!)!

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  102. Ron Coleman

    Finding the target by zooming out I discover by experience and practice. It also works for stationary subjects. The second method I had not thought about, but plan to try. I like the through the lens teaching approach. I will want to know if you are using continuous auto focus will shooting.

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    • Matt

      Hi Ron. Yes. The only way to track and focus continuously is with AF-C. Thanks!

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  103. Pat Virgo

    Matt this is very helpful as I am a visual learner, as many of us photographers are. Keep going with this concept.

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  104. Mike Woolley

    I think through the viewfinder will be a great learning tool Matt.

    Although personally Iโ€™m not wild about the โ€œzoom out to acquireโ€ technique ? Itโ€™s too slow for fast moving BIFs and doesnโ€™t work at all for primes!

    Similarly for pointing the camera somewhere else to acquire focus, I prefer to give the focus ring a quick tweak instead, which is a lot faster.

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    • TingSern

      I agree with that. For fast flying birds – especially the smaller birds – you just don’t even have the time to point at the bird, never mind trying to zoom out and in. Although my Olympus 150-400 Pro lens is a zoom – I hardly use that in the field – I often preset the zoom in advance – and use a dot sight to do the wide angle acquisition first ….

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  105. Naomi Zottoli

    Thanks, Matt, I enjoyed your video and liked viewing through your camera’s lens. My Canon R5 has no problem acquiring focus at 200 to 400mm, I just aim and it focuses. But with large primes (like Canon’s 600mm F11), I have difficulty. I think it would be helpful if you could address finding and focusing with these large primes.

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  106. Stephen Grobler

    Zoom out to pick up and zoom in helpful tip, so too the “prefocus”. You seem to be on autoISO. Your tracking sensitivity setting is excellent to keep focus despite intervening structures. Would love to see your finished course.
    I moved from Nikon mirrorless (due to tracking issues) to Olympus MFT and love the Procapture to preempt bird movements faster than I can push the shot trigger. Thanks Regards

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  107. Ken

    This is a great idea. Makes earning more interesting.

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  108. Jennifer Ferris

    Loved this Matt. Lots of us are “show me” rather than “tell me” learners.

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    • Ray Walton

      Yep I think this is a good way to teach this through the lens technique. However some folks use primary telephoto lenses so the technique is not relevant in easily finding your flying bird subject. Do you have any useful tips for those using long focal length primary lenses ? Keep up the good work Matt. Sadly I do not do much bird photography these days as now in my mid 70s I am finding it harder to get out and about.

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      • TingSern

        Try using a dot sight – Nikon makes a very good one …. definitely way better than trying to hunt for a flying bird by looking through a viewfinder of a camera attached to a prime telephoto lens.

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  109. Heather

    Very helpful, especially for someone who is new to using a large zoom lens like a 400 or 600mm. Explanations are clear with good examples.

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  110. Terry

    I’ve been hooked on the challenge of bird photography for many years and this through the lens teaching method is very refreshing and useful, I hope to see more of it in your upcoming course . It will be helpful to emphasize the importance of practice and being creative with these techniques…

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  111. Tom

    I like it. Listening to you explain and we see it in the video is like being there with you as you lead a hands on demo. Go for it.

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  112. Rick Verbanec

    The WYSIWYG approach is very useful to demonstrate what you’re talking about, but don’t do it at the expense of good headbone discussion of technique. A separate camera recording of you “making the recording” with your camera would be a nice addition. I know, editing can get hairy.

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  113. Margaret Stapper

    I love this concept Matt. Especially since I gave Sony. Iโ€™m very impressed. I also want some scenes where you show how you are using a camera with a long lens eg tripod, monopod, hand held, even moving with gear. I find trying to move through first with gear so cumbersome. I am a newbie and struggle with gear and then trying to keep in my head processes.

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  114. Martin D Turner

    Through the viewfinder/lens is best for me to show what you’re described in concept or as a tip. There is nothing like an example to set in a concept.

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  115. Nanette Canterbury

    I vote for “Thru the Lens” training.

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  116. TingSern

    I had been taking bird photography for a long while now – I found the use of a dot sight to acquire a fast moving bird flying across my view from left to right (or vice versa) – very useful. If the bird is flying straight towards me – that’s much easier – but is rare. So – I put up a dot sight (Nikon) on my Olympus EM1X (with bird tracking turned on) – using my Olympus 150-400 Pro lens – and that combination makes it a winner for me. And yes – I also pre-focus the lens by pointing it to an appropriate area before I try to get that bird. Cheers.

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  117. Robert Wood Anderson

    Love it. Direct and concise. For the situation that you present with a grey sky and a dark bird, this is a sweet bit of training.

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  118. K J Garrett

    I do like the through the camera view, and obtaining focus is definitely a struggle. The problem that I see, in this case, is that most bird photographers I know, myself included, shoot with a Prime lens. Because I’m poor, mine is only an old 400mm, but most people I shoot with use a 500 or 600mm lens. I do wonder if the many segments of the course will be applicable to those of us that don’t have zoom capabilities.

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  119. Louise Lindsay

    Thanks Matt. Like everyone, I like your through the lens teaching style. I have only played around with BIF, loving othersโ€™ BIF images, but not doing great with them myself. I did stumble upon pre-focusing on other objects, but then forgot about it. Your video highlighted that tip, and now I wonโ€™t forget it. Seeing the blob was a good reminder. I have tried BIF with my Olympus M10 and a 75-300 mm handheld. I also discovered that tracking the bird at 75 mm and then zooming in to 300 mm helped me find the bird. I wish I had known this up front. Sounds like your course is going to go over almost everything – so helpful.

    I often shoot with my right eye, with my left eye open also, especially when I am zoomed to 300 mm. I think this has helped me find the bird (or wildlife) and maintain the ability to track it, but I havenโ€™t done this enough to be sure.

    I agree with others that it might help also to show a visual of your selecting the continuous auto focus mode, etc. in your camera? I have figured out how to set this mode, but it was confusing for me at first. I canโ€™t handle the weight of the cameras most people teach with. I am always having to try and figure out the equivalent settings on my Olympus, which sometimes donโ€™t exist. For example, I have Continual Auto focus, and face and eye detection, but not bird eye or animal eye, etc. Nevertheless, it still would be helpful to see also the view of your camera as you choose a setting. Yes, I have to try and translate for my camera, but still the visual helps. (I know that my camera set up is not typical nor mainstream. I accept that I just have to spend some time figuring out which settings I do have and how they work.).

    Good luck with your course. It sounds great.

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    • jose santiago

      Thanks for sharing. Thru the camera is what I prefer. What I did notices is the birds are too far away. Even with the 200-600 and a body like the a7r4 when you crop the detail will be hard to get. Many people like to take images of raptors which fly much different than shorebirds. Taking into consideration wind direction vs light direction if they are in opposite you might just get backs of birds. Considering the type of bird against the background? A dark plumage like brown pelican with a tree line behind will take considerable more skill to keep the focus than a tern against the same background. Anyway hope to see the final product.

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    • Matt

      Thanks. As I said in the beginning, at this point in the course you will have learned all of that. You’re seeing 1 video out of 30 and one that is about 2/3’s of the way in to the course. Thanks!

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  120. Stephen Spence

    I like the idea of what you are trying to achieve, but would also like to have that supplimented with your approach to camera position, hand position, possible tripod position, stance etc when you are aquiring focus for the bird. These movements and skills all play a part in the ultimate outcome – a sharp, in focus image right.

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  121. Linda David

    I definitely think the “through the camera” view will be much more helpful as you explain the process you are demonstrating than to just see you as you as you talk. To actually see what you are talking about while you are talking brings clarity to the topic you are discussing. I’m looking forward to your BIF course!

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  122. Julie Boyle

    I think this technique – through your camera is an excellent idea. To see how your focus points (and how many you use) is extremely interesting to me as I find hard to keep the bird in view. Sounds really great.

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  123. Marilyn Martin

    I really like your use of video to demonstrate the point. For someone new to photographing birds it will be especially helpful.

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  124. David Griffin

    Hello Matt,
    I don’t think I can add much to the comments already provided, but I will say teaching this way is different than have seen done. It should absulotely allow people to learn techniques to focus and track BIF. Looking forward to the course as well.

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  125. M. Owen

    This is great, to see it through your viewfinder. I do wonder how you manage to hold the camera steady with a large, heavy zoom lens on it, track the bird, and zoom in all at the same time. Perhaps my hands are just too small to hold the lens and zoom it at the same time, while my other hand is also supporting the camera. Or maybe it just takes a lot of practice. Tips for what to practice on might be helpful as well.

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    • Matt

      I’m on a tripod in this case. But if I were handholding, my non-button-pressing hand would be on the zoom ring while shooting. Thanks!

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  126. Retha Moulder

    Super way to view tracking of the bird. I realize that technically using a 600mm is similar to using a 300 mm, but in your lesson could you also use some examples of the 300mm maybe even with teleconverter, for those of us that are hobbiest and do not have a 600mm. At least then we would have an idea of how well our bird should look. Also any suggestions for using Topaz gigapixel to enhance our bird. I also agree with the suggestion above on knowing which is the type of settings we should be using for our camera to track birds in difficult situations. Also any suggestions for being able to “see” the bird on the mirrorless screen in the sunlight.

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    • Matt

      Hi Retha.
      1) I’m not sure what using a 300mm lens would have changed or added to this?
      2) I don’t use gigapixel and editing won’t be covered in this course. I already have an editing course at mattk.com/wildlife
      3) I’ve never had trouble seeing the bird through my viewfinder on mirrorless. What issues are you having?

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  127. George Secor

    Matt
    The initial acquisition of a target is critical, fail that and you are playing catch-up all the way through the shot. A training technique from fire arms instruction and particularly shotgunning can be done almost any where. It will improve your target Inquisition time. The beauty of teaching this technique for photographers is that you need not mention firearms, guns shooting etc. The training is as follows:
    Put up a target about the size of the bird species you want to photograph. With the camera and lens you are using for your BIF photography back away from the target 30 – 40 yards. Set the AF area to spot on the camera. Looking at the target, bring the camera up. When your eye is looking through the view finder press the AF and press the shutter. The LCD scene will tell the story, but with repetition the number of first shot in-focus will improve and the number of bird-butts on you card will. It becomes muscle memory.

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  128. Dan Maks

    I think the use of teaching “live” through camera video is excellent as well as the tips. Should have a section on how not to lose the subject. The pre-focus get ready tip I already use on some types (kestrels that return to the same tree consistently),but look forward to your course, your advice and improving.

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  129. Susan Liddle

    Seeing what you see through the viewfinder is a very effective method of teaching BIF photography! In my opinion the lessons are far more easily absorbed and remembered.

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  130. Kahsia Hartwell

    The video definitely helps with acquiring focus and I like looking through the camera rather than you talking it through. More videos rather than discussion. A picture is worth a 1000 words. Thanks for sharing. Even though it was short, I learned something from it.

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  131. Georgie

    Hi Matt, this a great method of teaching, I really enjoyed it and I look forward to the class. I would love to see this method used more in other courses too. Thanks for all your hard work…

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  132. Duane Erdmann

    Demos of the real thing are always great. It helps to see how a pro starts out and that his initial pix are no different that what I see. He/you just know how to recover quickly and get the shot we both want.

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  133. JC Farnum

    ditto, ditto, ditto — all thumbs up!

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  134. Sharon

    I really liked seeing the “in camera” view. I have found photographing birds in flight very challenging and have had limited success. It was very helpful to see what the technique looks like when you are actually taking the photo. Thank you so much for sharing!

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  135. Vic Lewchenko

    I like your tips for acquiring focus, particularly the idea of starting zoomed out. Never really thought to do that. One challenge I’ve had is once acquiring my target, keeping it in the viewfinder. When using my 150-600, especially near the 600 end, it’s really hard to hold the lens steady enough not to lose my target after I’ve found it. If I’m lucky I can lean against something to steady myself. Obviously practice will help, but curious if you will offer any tips on how to steady the lens while tracking. Looking forward to the course!

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  136. Jenni Eakins

    Hi Matt, to answer your questions:
    Does this help with my questions – absolutely it does, got a couple of great ‘gems’ in just that short video
    How is the view through the camera – it’s great to see it as you shot it & I don’t think anything is lost by not see you on screen
    More of this type – YES please.
    This was a great way to see how the thinks which I struggle with being addressed, it felt like it was almost done specifically to answer my questions.
    Great product Matt, thank you

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  137. J. Chasse

    Through the camera will be very helpful in gaining the skills necessary for flying bird photography. I hope you will cover tips for when the birds are flying toward, away, and over as well. In the past my focus tends to be soft and camera shake doesn’t help. so tips and techniques will be appreciated.

    Thanks for the opportunity to have some input to your process.

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  138. Jack

    There are so many great comments here already that I don’t know that I have anything to add. Seeing this kind of real world problem solving and work around is very helpful and rarely shown. I’ve heard that one of the differences between an amateur and a pro is that you’ll never see the pro’s bad shots. But, learning from the bad shots is what leads to great photographs. Thanks, Matt. Keep up the great work.

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  139. Irene Bergamini

    I think the camera view video version will be very helpful. I do a lot of bird photography and had to learn a lot of this the hard way. I do have a Sony A9 and being able to back-button focus with zone and and tracking on 2 different buttons makes the switch much quicker. It’s not just finding the bird but what auto-focus mode you should use shown by video demonstration would be very helpful. I agree with most of what others have already said

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  140. Neal Gilchrist

    Excellent approach, autofocus can need a bit of preliminary thought and planning. My only suggestion is to refer to the pre-focusing as “preparing the camera” for the target. (I guess my old Boy Scout training is kicking in — Be Prepared!)

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  141. Lori Jennings-Emery

    As the others have said, seeing what you see in real time is exactly what is essential to teach this topic. I’m looking forward to the course. BIF is a tough skill to master (if the term “master” is even appropriate!). One little tip I’ve learned (from others, of course) is to keep both eyes open to acquire the target and get it framed more quickly so you can follow it. It feels really weird at first, but makes a huge difference.

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  142. Deborah Large

    Wow! This is very helpful but I usually get so excited when photographing birds that I forget everything. My Canon 100-400 usually does pretty well in spite of myself. Your demonstration is great.

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  143. Mickey

    Lots of great comments and not sure I can add anything, but I do really like you showing us what you’re seeing through the viewfinder, and it’s great seeing some of it in real time. Seeing still photos with markups just doesn’t quite translate for me to real life so this technique is great. I find shooting birds in flight to be very challenging to get a good shot so really looking forward to the course.

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  144. MIchael Ricco

    Matt, over the past few months I’ve been doing a lot of photographing of birds in flight. So this demo video is very timely for me. This will certainly help me acquiring focus on birds in flight with my zoom lenses. Will your tutorial include tips on acquiring bif focus with a prime lens? My longest lens is a prime and I’ve had some good results with bigger birds such as Herons, Ospreys and Eagles, but the smaller birds are damn impossible for me to find them when they’re zooming by. I very much like the view through the camera. The issues you were having are exactly what all of us struggle with. Yes, I would like to see more videos like this where I can see exactly what your camera sees because my camera as well as everyone else likely struggles with the the same challenges – so the ttl view is very very helpful. Looking forward to the new tutorial. Will you send out an email announcing the tutorial with instructions on where to register or have I missed it? Thank you so much ๐Ÿ™‚

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  145. Adam

    Hi Matt,

    Hope you are well and here are some of my responses as a bird/WL photographer:

    1)Does this help you with questions on acquiring focus on birds in flight? Yes, these are common problems for acquiring focus in BIF photography. Just an aside on your last observation. The lack of initiating af when the object is so far out of the plane of focus that it doesn’t create any contrast is unique to all mirrorless cameras which af off of the sensor itself. DSLR’s don’t exhibit this behavior because they have a separate af unit which has a high f/stop (irrespective of the lens setting) which facilitates af. As you illustrated, pre-focusing (an old technique we used to use before af), pointing the camera at an adjacent high contrast object to initiate af, or manually “bumping” the lens, i.e. slight mf to create some contrast all work.
    FWIW, I was shooting DIF (dragonflies in flight) the other day and as fast, erratic, and small as they are no af system would easily acquire af without using the pre-focus technique.

    Also, I would include a discussion of how small apertures (high f) are generally not needed for most BIF as the dof is usually adequate and shutter speed is more important. Equally important, I would touch on IS (how it is unnecessary at high Tv), discuss, panning, creating blurs (with slow Tv), etc.

    2) How do you like the view through the camera? Or would you rather just see me on the screen talking about it? Definitely the camera view (you could include a small box of you talking or not). Stopping the frames, use of arrows, symbols etc. to illustrate points are good strategies.

    3) Would you like more discussion based videos or more videos like this where you can see exactly what my camera sees?
    Any other thoughts? I think that depends on the topic and application and whether the through the lens perspective adds to the narrative you are creating.

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  146. Ian Wade

    The technique of through the lens is very helpful. I have seen other training which has used still photos marked up showing the focus points and I find your teaching method much better. Also found the tip about focusing using a distant point before looking for the bird in flight very helpful. I really enjoy your teaching style Matt.

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  147. Lance Mccaughan

    It is very helpful to see what the photographer is seeing along with a commentary of what you are doing and why. I assume you will add finished image in at the relevant point as seeing the before (or in this case the while getting image) and the after close together rather than at the end of the video is really good. I would even suggest this order, live video – raw image you ended up using – finished image, this would be very helpful to see what you saw and tracked, what you captured and what you ended up with . i would also add for the end a short slideshow of finished images.

    regarding you bit on focusing. I always do this, focus on something about the right distance to where i expect to see something to photograph as i walk around. I also do a lot of events and sport and i often point the camera at things about the right distance (without looking through it) and press the focus button (back button focus) as you do not need to look through the camera, just estimate it, to grab a rough focus so if something happens i know i will be able to see what i am aiming at when i bring camera up and it is going to focus quicker.

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  148. Bob

    I like watching through the lens. A picture is worthโ€ฆ
    Tell me what you are going to do, do it while Iโ€™m watching and then Iโ€™ll try to do it.
    I think watching through you lens is important because it allows me to see all of your camera settings. Specifically, I can see the focus mode, the focus tracking options and the focus area.
    Is it safe to assume these techniques will apply to air shows as well?
    Keep up the good work.

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  149. Jeff Hendy

    Good coverage of the topics, Matt – I’ve experienced all of them, and this approach really helps.

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  150. John Wood

    Very helpful…. discussion of birds flying in front of textured environment instead of blank sky…. also have you already mentioned handheld vs off a gimble and use of limiter switch on the lens?

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  151. John Fernald

    If offered the opportunity to choose between the demonstrated method and the older method of tracking instruction, I would choose this method every time.

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    • Kathy Bolio

      Having always relied on luck, I appreciated your tip to focus on something at the approximate distance.

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  152. Eugenia M Mills

    As a teacher of nursing students, teaching while doing the photography is an excellent way to do the teaching. Keep to your points, and don’t keep giving excuses, such this is not good photography. Seeing the hands on is extremely important. By the time the student is ready for hands on, they have learned the basics and you can limit that as you did by not giving f stop, shutter speed and iso. Thanks

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    • Deborah Kunnath

      this is great sign me up !!!

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    • Matt

      Hi. I had to mention “this is not good photography” because it’s not. This isn’t a lesson I would be proud of to share as a paid course. The paid version will practice what I preach. But as a “test” I was able to get out and make something that would test the idea I had. But I do think it’s important to note it’s a test and that the photography isn’t good, nor are the conditions I was out in. Thanks!

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      • Russ Carlson

        Eugenia was correct: no need for excuses. They are not ‘great’ videos, but you are not teaching us to make great videos. And to see the accomplished photographer create something like this as you learn, well, that’s what we amateurs get our first times out, too.

        Go with the TTL vids. It shows us what we should expect.

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  153. Judy Boyd

    Hats off to you Matt for coming up with a great inventively new way to teach a bird in flight course. I think seeing through the view finder is so cleaver and I would like seeing more. Liked your finding focus tip also. Thank you ?

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  154. Dale Flynn

    I definitely like the through-the-camera view. I can see that this is going to take much practice. Are you hand-holding in the clip or using a tripod? I hope you will cover using a tripod for bif. I think I am too shaky for hand-holding.

    Thanks for this, Matt–

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  155. William Steven Coggin

    Through the camera is a great way of illustrating this tip. Your narration along with the real time through the lens view made me feel that this is a lesson I will never forget (a very rare feeling in most training courses, so I write notes that I will never look at again). Great job and a real advancement in your teaching methodology.

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  156. Arnie Berger

    I definitely like the TTL approach rather than the traditional method where the audience is focus on the speaker. Your methods is centered on the practical application rather than the theoretical. I would also include advice not to stop your panning as your fire your shutter but keep on following through as if hitting a baseball when you swing.

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    • Sheila

      I love this approach of showing whatโ€™s in the viewfinder! Iโ€™ve had a lot of folks talk to me about strategies for photographing BIF & I think this would help me immensely. I have no questions other than when are you offering this class!

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      • N Ross de St Croix

        Hi. As always a great presentation.

        A couple of tricks I use for hand holding a 150 to 600 lens is using both eyes to follow the bird. One on the eye piece and the other open to see the bird in real time. Takes lots of practice but in time you’ll get it.

        Another thing about that method is to put target arrows on the lens shade to help you transfer from live to enlarged eyepiece view. I on help to find the bird if you might have lost it after you changed the zoom from 200
        have to 600.
        Have Fun

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  157. P Hardman

    Matt, I would like to hear how you may have assigned buttons on your Sony A1(?) and how you may manipulate your exposure, changes in shutter speed, or a button you might push and hold to make in-camera changes for a sitting bird in the midst of waiting for the bird”s flight (which would require obvious changes your settings). So often in videos about how to set up a camera, it is done in a studio setting. In the field changes dictated by weather, light conditions or distances are much more useful for me. I do like the idea of through the lens teaching.

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  158. Rodney

    Helpful hints. Good to see the finished video

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    • Joseph

      Hi Mat, Just a thought, I have older eyes so I use a 2x on my eyepiece (D6) with two results (1) I use release focus so I find sharpest input for my eyes more quickly (2) since the image looks larger in the frame then it actually is I have built in extra margin around the whole image if it is centered correctly thus I rarely cut off heads, tails, wings, etc…..J

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    • Bob

      I like watching through the lens. A picture is worth…
      Tell me what you are going to do, do it while I’m watching and then I’ll try to do it.
      I think watching through you lens is important because it allows me to see all of your camera settings. Specifically, I can see the focus mode, the focus tracking options and the focus area.
      Is it safe to assume these techniques will apply to air shows as well?
      Keep up the good work.

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  159. James R Saxon

    I like the approach of seeing what the camera sees and your explanation of what and why you are doing this. Love the addition of the pre-focus, on the ground or somewhere at the same distance where the bird will be, to assist the camera in acquiring focus faster. Don’t know if your lens is programable with the pre-focus distance but a mention to set a programable distance in the lens if it has that function. I am anxious to purchase this course and help my bird photography.

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  160. John Wolfson

    Thanks. The zoom technique was helpful. Other than practice/practice/practice any other tips on how to use that technique would be appreciated. Can you use a tripod with a loose ball socket to better stabilize the zoom while tracking?

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  161. Ed Federer

    As part of your course and especially in view finding, are you going to show how to backlight a bird so that the light show through the feathers.

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  162. colin.hegan

    This concept is excellent Matt. I feel that not enough teaching is done through the camera view. I am not really into Birds in Flight ( very few large or interesting birds in Northern Ireland ) but I can see this type of teaching would be very helpful. I always get more out of your on location videos when you show and explain your compositions and settings through the camera. So even Landscape tutorials are best done in this way. Keep pushing the envelop Matt keeps everyone interested Thanks

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  163. Chris Calverley

    I liked the technique you use and seeing it work through your lens made it very clear what you were suggesting.
    It would, of course need a lot of practice to perfect, zooming in while tracking the subject is not going to be easy.

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  164. Victor C

    Definitely looking through your camera is as close as possible to real life lesson. Would help if I could see how you hold your camera in the “ready”position and direct it to the bird in flight too.

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  165. Stan Ford

    Matt, given the topic, I think this approach is very effective. As a visual learner, seeing what the camera sees is the best way for me to learn.

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  166. Lynn Thompson

    I like your technique. Seeing what the camera sees is very helpful.

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  167. Bob Staab

    Hey Matt, my comment would fall under “any other thoughts”. I designed a SW Florida bird photography training class for our Photography Club that was primarily geared toward hand holding techniques, composition, focus settings, etc. I ended up adding a section on utilizing a Gimball head or monopod based on the percentage of Members who can no longer comfortably hand hold a 600 mm lens. Food for thought if you haven’t already done so.

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  168. Jacqueline Sneddon

    Yes. Definitely like seeing what you see through your lens. Definitely will help when learning new techniques. Looking forward to the release of this new tutorial.

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  169. Joan Robins

    Your approach is excellent. Most of us spend a LOT (too much?) time with our eyes glued to the viewfinder, and so anything that explains what’s happening there is far easier to absorb than it would be just hearing or reading about it! You are a born teacher–and this kind of visual combined with your usual no-nonsense narrative really does the trick. Looking forward to the course.

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  170. laurie

    Yes to all of what you are saying…. these things will really help get the subject. Some time ago I read something about turning off some of the setting that cause the camera to need more “thinking” time before focusing do you address that in the new video?

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  171. Charlene Mitchell

    Love the ‘through the camera lens’ view. Can’t wait for the course to come out!

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  172. Mel Whaley

    Matt, I like the through the camera view and look forward to the complete course. You are using a zoom lens here, will you also speak to getting BIF focus using a prime lens?

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  173. Linda Yurkanin

    I have been following you since your Kelby days and appreciate your style of teaching. I think that it is a great idea to include this in you course. Trial and error has taught me to do as you described. It would have saved a lot of frustration if I was aware of this technique when I started birding. I currently use a 100-400 with a 1.4 converter. I struggle with this lens at times because the widest aperture is F/11. What are your thoughts on moving up to a 200-600mm?
    The difficulty with focus tracking in birding I had attributed to a learning curve going from Canon to my Sony A9. Plus, I was just new to birding! Birding surely presents a whole new set of challenges from landscape photography

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    • Jean-Louis

      Matt, thank you for sharing. You demonstrate a good basic B.I.F. acquiring and tracking technique. You may consider mentioning that one should correctly set their lens autofocus limiter to minimise undesirable focus travel or hunting. As one gains experience, coordination improves and acquisition become much easier. I notice that you are using a mirrorless camera which really makes its quite simple. Using a DSLR adds greatly to the challenge and I wonder if you will touch on this in your course?

      Again thank you and keep up the great work.

      PS I recently purchased your Ps Luminosity Masking course. I must commend you on an excellent overall process and feel that your guide in the use of the course is novel and valuable.

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  174. James Bruckman

    Your tips are always helpful as are your videos. The ones you gave here are ones I use already, but I am sure you will have more to come. You do realize you are using the easiest birds in flight to capture as the examples here – birds flying in a easy to follow flight pattern. I hope you will talk about how to capture more difficult patterns like those of a swallow or hummingbird or many beautiful song birds.

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  175. Shelley Heatley

    Yes, definitely on the through the camera – because it’s more real life situation. Great idea!

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    • Joe

      This clip was interesting, should be included.

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    • Nick Bell

      I notice that you and Steve at Back Country Gallery are doing a similar course, I just bought his, are you guys in cahoots!!?? anyway I think what you are doing is fine itโ€™s good to have an almost hands on experience just if I could ask you to remember we donโ€™t all have Sony A1s and may not track around the screen like yours does. Otherwise a great idea.

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    • Sandy LeBrun-Evans

      Matt, I love the way you teach and this looks very interesting. I have the lens you have and am very interested in your new classes. I’ve had hard time focusing on birds in flight so this is perfect.

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  176. P J

    > Does this help you with questions on acquiring focus on birds in flight?
    Absolutely.

    >How do you like the view through the camera? Or would you rather just see me on the screen talking about it?
    The view through the camera rocks. (That’s not to say I wouldn’t mind seeing you talk ๐Ÿ™‚ )

    >Would you like more discussion based videos or more videos like this where you can see exactly what my camera sees?
    I find that seeing exactly what the instructor’s camera sees is the best way to apply the techniques to my own photography.

    >Any other thoughts?
    You rock too! Keep up the great work.

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  177. JERRY BURRIS

    This is something i would like to view, Takeing a boat trip with you wrote about that you did in fl.,a while back. I am going down in march 2022 and would like to get any training possible.

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  178. Shelly

    I think this is very useful! I’m a see it kind of girl and your video is good quality. i have learned the MOST from you about editing and taking wildlife. Thank you for resonating with me!

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  179. Terry McConnell

    I think the videos work fine. It gives a person an idea of what they might see in the camera that they are using.
    I think I like the idea of seeing what your camera sees and the discussions that they might start. It gives the viewer an exact idea of what you were thinking.

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  180. Michael Hains

    Matt

    Jan Wagener and Duade Paton have YouTube channels that focus on bird photography. There is plenty of usual information if you need a second source to confirm what you are doing. They are both good bird photographers and produce great videos.

    I noticed you stated you do not recommend aperture priority for bird photography. Sony cameras have a mode that is very useful called โ€œAperture Priority with Auto ISO Minimum Shutter Speedโ€, Really useful for BIF, video by Mark Galer for more details: https://youtu.be/gqqmqKFzHRg

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  181. Mike Stys

    I don’t know if monopods are being or have been covered elsewhere; at least for me, using a monopod provides the best balance of steadiness and flexibility. For birds at ground level it works well to provide stability; for overhead shots it can help me lift and hold steady my Nikon 200-500mm lens on my D500, and aid in tracking the bird’s flight.

    Thank you for your all video classes, I have learned a great deal from them.

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  182. John Law

    Matt, your meat hood of teaching works for me. I like how you have adapted through the lens to show the Meath of. It sinks into my brain more readily than watching it on computer. Keep up the good stuff.

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  183. JAY HURON

    Yes, I like the in-camera view for teaching this subject.

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  184. Wally Schmerheim

    Look to be another great video Matt. The old adage “one picture is worth a thousand words” come into play here. Your new video is very effective by showing what the camera sees.
    What I would also like to see with all purchased videos would be a downloadable PDF where you can follow each step by the numbers. A good example is at the website PSessentials.com. I hate to tell you how many times I re-watch a video, stop at certain points and jot down notes to continue in the workflow. Maybe I’m just not the brightest bulb in the room!

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  185. Kurt Patrizi

    Hi. I do a lot of in-flight bird photography. I think that your through-the-camera approach is fantastic. Whether one is a beginner or advanced, there are many take aways with this approach. In a way, one could also call it over-the-shoulder instruction for effectively capturing birds in flight. I look forward to the video.

    A suggestion. Use this training approach to show the pros and cons of bird eye AF in various situations, and switching from AF to bird eye AF and back.

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  186. Richard Weisenfeld

    Using the video of your actual process is extremely helpful, especially for someone moving to a different aspect of photography. Talking about what to do is usually not as effective as demonstrating in real life. This technique would work well for other types of photography as well, such as macro, sports, etc.

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  187. A. Stephens

    Thank you for your video, I always learn something new or am reminder of something I knew and had forgotten.

    I’m too a visual learner and this type of teaching followed by the why you choose your set up works really well for me. I have to know why something is done not just be told this is what you are to do.

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  188. Charlie

    Matt as I recently switched to Sony, I found your approach thru the viewfinder right on target. Your previous videos on auto focus, etc, have helped immensely in increasing my keeper rate of BIF. I look forward to your course to take it to the next level. Thanks for all your help.

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  189. Tom Herrington

    I like the idea of focusing beforehand on something so that I’m prepared for the bird in flight. However, my question is how to do I focus when I am in a moving boat along with a bird in flight? Do the same rules apply?

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    • Matt

      Hey Tom. Nothing really changes. At the shutter speeds you (should) be shooting at, the moving boat doesn’t really add much to the mix except if you catch a wave while you think everything is still. At 1/3200th of a second, almost every shot I take from a boat is sharp as long as AF picked it up. If you start getting slower shutter speeds then sure… the boat can affect it.

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  190. Jim Katzman

    Matt, I think showing the view through the camera is a wonderful technique for instruction. I also shoot Sony, with the A9, a 100-400 GM lens and a 1.4x teleconverter. I use the animal eye focus (is there really a “Bird” eye focus that’s different?) My biggest concern is the usually best focus mode to use on the A9. I have been using wide -tracking mode.

    The technique of zooming out to start and long focus before going up to the sky is a very good tip as well.

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  191. D. Spector

    Not sure what to add. Lots of good comments. I too like seeing what you are seeing in real time so to speak.

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  192. Scott

    Awesome! This is a great way to see what you are doing as opposed to watching it on a computer screen. It is as if I can see through the same camera you are viewing through! Keep it!

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  193. Cathy Webb

    Thanks Matt – look forward to the release of another great course! YES view through the camera is a nice, novel, fresh approach. Perhaps you will cover Back Button Focus to lock on a subject. I too shoot alot in FL, so will look forward to some new tips!

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  194. Joe Dโ€™Arcy

    Nothing to add thatโ€™s not already been mentioned, seeing what you see through the lens is definitely a plus. This course sounds groundbreaking compared to whatโ€™s already out there.

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  195. Matthew Burroughs

    Hi! My name is also Matt, and I shoot a lot of birds. What I got from the video s a confirmation of the same bird shooting protocol I use, i.e., always zoom out first to actually find the bird! I shoot birds from my feeder quite regularly, and I start with a slightly wider field of focus then I will end up with, especially if there are a lot of birds in the feeder.

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  196. Renie Poole

    Your video confirmed my way of shooting birds. Granted it could have saved a lot of trial and error on my part had I viewed it first. But then, you weren’t teaching when I started photographing birds. For anyone new to bird photography, this view through the lens should be very helpful.

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  197. Roy Stehle

    “Through the camera” view works well. It doesn’t matter if we have different brands of cameras. It’s fine if you need to use less than perfect footage to demonstrate a problem.

    My infrequent shooting has been from a small expedition ship or Zodiak and the ship motion compounds the problem. Often, there aren’t any stable object at range to focus on, but parts of the ship or another Zodiak help to get the focus in range (that isn’t infinity). Doug Bank’s comments apply to my situations.

    Thanks. Good Work, as always.

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    • David

      Itโ€™s the way I photograph birds and seeing the through the lens should help those new to birds in flight. Love the fast acquire of the sony as evidenced in the video.

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  198. Joyce Rivera

    Hey Matt, I think others have covered everything I would say. I think the through the lens video is fantastic as it shows me exactly you are doing. I have no negative input.
    Thanks for sharing this.

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  199. Dave

    Works for me like all the other courses that I have done with you.

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  200. Frank Spikes

    Not being snide, this is a Camera 101 Basic. And yes, there are many of your viewers who will garner a lot of knowledge from tips like this. Never talk to the smartest bulb in the room. So, keep up the good work.

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    • Matt

      Hi Frank. I definitely follow the “never talk to the brightest bulb in the room” philosophy. In my experience, advanced people will see a tip and think to themselves “I could have figured that out” even if they hadn’t up to that point.
      That said, this is FAR from basic. The fact that some one is even attempting to photograph a bird in flight and working on the AF settings needed to do so makes them infinitely far past basic. It is by far THE hardest and most difficult thing to do with your camera and the techniques are are definitely not for some one who just picked up a camera and thinks they’d like to take a photo of a bird. Thanks!

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    • John

      Frank,

      a) and yet you were being snide.
      b) if your opinion is that this is a “101 basic,” you don’t have a grip what the general population considers basic, to be blunt.
      c) I would amend this to say “Never talk to those who THINK they are the brightest bulb in the room.”

      Matt, this is a subject that doesn’t get as much attention as it should. I like the way you walk through it, and I agree with others that it is more helpful to demonstrate it using a view through the lens as you’ve done rather than just talking on screen. I agree that some folks who are very familiar with their camera’s setting may indeed figure this out on their own, but having a tutorial like this can at the very least reinforce to those folks they’re on the right track. Looking forward to your session(s) in the next PS Summit.

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  201. Roy Priest

    Looks like most of the bases are already covered with the comments. I too like the through the camera shots.

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  202. Bob Swider

    With what you have now, I can’t wait to see the final course. You have already mentioned 2 things I have struggle with in the past. Locating my subject while zoomed all in the way in and not checking on my settings periodically during the shoot. Seeing my mistakes visually and how to correct them, will help me a lot. Thanks Matt.

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  203. Terry Gray

    Matt, your teaching instincts are spot-on…you keep doing YOU! That’s why we love learning from your teaching style! I love the real world view you gave us…I’ve certainly had my share of “where is that dadgum bird, anyway?!” moments!!! Hopefully these helpful tips will reduce their frequency. My birding lens is usually a 500m fixed, so I need the last option of focusing on something “in the distance-ish” (I love that word you made up!). ๐Ÿ™‚ Can’t wait to delve into your new lessons!

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  204. Ian Tulloch

    Hi Matt,

    I use a Canon R6 with a Canon 100-400mm telephoto lens (sometimes with x1.4 extender) for bird in-flight shots. I have set back button focus and assigned eye focus to another button so that when I acquire focus lock on the bird with back button, I then quickly activate the eye focus button to home in on the bird’s eye. Not sure if your Sony camera has this dual focus functionality but if it does it would be helpful to know how best to use the two in combination to achieve optimal sharpness on the eye as well as the rest of the bird.

    Looking forward to your new bird photography course, which I’m sure will help me to capture better quality images of fast-moving birds in flight.

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    • Matt

      Hey Ian. I believe from talking to my Canon friends your Eye AF works a bit different and most of them wish I worked like the Sony. With the Sony, I turn on Bird Eye AF separately from where I choose an AF “Area”. So I’m able to use both. If Bird Eye AF is on, and I have the bird in the correct AF area, and I’m close enough or the bird is clear enough it’ll lock on to the eye. But for some reason, if it’s not finding the eye the camera will still revert back to the usual AF methods and find/track the bird just fine. In fact, the A1 (and recent firmware updates to the a9) have made it so that even if it doesn’t find the eye, the camera must know it’s a bird and the direction it’s flying and lock on to the head rather than just float focus points all over the bird. It’s really amazing to see and it’s almost like cheating. In short, I don’t ever think twice about whether the bird (and it’s head) is in focus. It just is. Hope that helps.

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      • Bill Bryant

        One small addition to this comment and response, is that using a dual back button focus, you can opt to have one of them set as a spot focus (canon R5), which facilitates focusing on a specific bird before they take flight, and also seems to be faster to prefocus on a general range to limit hunting, which you covered.

        Another vote for showing through the viewfinder.

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        • Matt

          Thanks Bill. If you’re at the point where you even know what “Dual Back Button Focus” is, you’re far past of the point of who I’m targeting this course to ๐Ÿ™‚ That is a VERY advanced concept and my guess is you are already an established bird photographer where there’s not much I’ll be able to teach you. Best!

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    • Ian

      Hi Matt. I like the idea, but let’s see if I understand it. Step 1 get the camera to focus roughly on an area in which the bird will be flying. Step 2 set the zoom to the lowest value possible. Step 3 acquire the target and then zoom in to the highest desirable value of the zoom.

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  205. Peter Fass

    Thanks Matt; crystal clear. Like others, I’ve also stumbled upon a similar process through trial and lots of error, and the problem for me is more holding focus as others have also mentioned.. Find the same process works with my cellphone photography as well; again not as ideal as having my “camera” with me ( and I do have to spend lots of time trying to sharpen the image in post) but it works for those unplanned opportunities.

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  206. Elizabeth Rourke

    This is a very good tip for people who are struggling to get birds in flight focused. I don’t think beginning and even intermediat e photographers think of this often enough and then get frustrated. Especially using long lenses.

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  207. Randy Bower

    Matt – I think the “through the camera” view is very helpful. I know this was only a brief sample but it would be helpful to include some of the challenges that may be camera specific or generic, like the tracking sensitivity issues etc.

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    • Matt

      Thanks Randy. That’s why I mentioned it in the video. There are nearly 15 videos on AF and Birds in Flight. This is just the tip of the iceberg as they say ๐Ÿ™‚

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  208. Ben Berk

    I think you’re on the right track. I’m assuming you’re hand-held. Are you doing anything to steady the image? Is the zoom motorized or manual? Lastly, are you tracking thru the eyepiece or via the back of the camera?

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    • Matt

      Hi Ben. This is actually worst case scenario. It’s on my Flexshooter Pro gimbal like ballhead which is great. But, I’m still more accurate hand held. But since I’m recording, it’s smoother this way. Plus, I have my recorded HDMI thing attached to the camera so I’m looking at a screen above the camera and trying to focus and track and move. So… when I hand hold I can actually keep the bird where it needs to be much better than this ๐Ÿ™‚
      Oh and it’s a 200-600mm lens. I assume they’re all manual zoom – not sure how a motor would work here.

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  209. Ken

    Looks like you have received lots of good feedback already. I follow a similar process to what you cover here, but I’ll pre-focus on a specific location (a perch for example) if the bird or bug or other critter is always returning to the same spot at high speed, and also not sticking around for any length of time either. Probably intuitive for most photographers. In rare situations, I’ll use manual focus instead of auto, and pre-focus on a spot ahead of or to the side of location a bird is flying to routinely. I’ll then watch for arrival and start shooting to catch them in flight near that cavity/nest. A bit hit and miss, but sometimes works better than auto.

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  210. JERRY FENWICK

    Well stated Matt. I use a Canon EOS f4 600mm, lens so I can’t zoom, but wish that I could. I have been using the estimated point of focus as well known point of focus to help acquire the bird and have had great success over the years.

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  211. Paul Smith

    Hi Matt, I’ve discovered those techniques through a bunch of trial and error and definitely believe it will help folks learn how to get the focus locked more quickly. Definitely like the view through the camera but I’m sure folks would appreciate seeing you on the intro and general discussion portions of the video. Once you get through basic discussions showing the video through the camera is definitely more useful. I saw a bunch of comments regarding other settings like tracking modes, etc., and when you discuss camera settings it would be good to show you selecting those settings either on the screen for dial settings or on the camera’s menu for menu item settings. I know it will vary by camera brand and model but most folks will be able to extrapolate to their camera if they see you do it on your Sony. Love your relaxed and direct style of teaching. Keep up the great work!

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  212. Joseph Jenkins

    I think it was useful to see what it looked like through the camera. Sometimes abstract discussions aren’t as useful especially when it’s a technical item.

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  213. Keith Shenkin

    Just returned from a trip to the States and was able to shoot some birds for the first time – Bald Eagle, Ospreys, Canadian Geese, Pelicans – and every single one of photos was absolute RUBBISH (using indoor language)!!! So, I am looking forward to adding this course to my MattK collection.

    Based on your other courses, I like the mix you have between you speaking to the camera and through-the-lens views.

    I thought that the technique to pick up focus by pointing at the ground was terrific… best taught, obviously, through the lens.

    The only question I have is whether you can apply the same the same principles for bird photography to shooting military aircraft/helicopters? More of those in my part of the world than birds.

    Cheers!

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    • Matt

      Absolutely. I use it for anything that’s off in the distance moving or still.

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      • KEITH H SHENKIN

        Terrific!!! Sign me up :)!

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  214. Carlos Nesci

    Crystal Clear! Nothing relevant to add, just good luck with your new course.

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  215. Robert Agli

    Hi Matt,
    I think your video will greatly assist the visual learner. I’m reading Steve Perry’s book on photographing BIF and I’m looking forward to your video as an additional learning tool. I hope you address the importance of understanding the biology of birds. Knowing what they may do goes a long way to getting the shot. I practice by photographing dragonflies in flight but I had to learn the biology to get any degree of success. As my mentor said, “if you can photograph dragonflies in the air, you will find birds much easier”.

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    • Matt

      Thanks Robert. I’m very much a “Keep it simple” person. I will not be able to do the “biology of birds” discussion any justice. Other than making a mention of “know your subject and observe and research” there’s nothing more I can add to the mix. So in the beginning of the course I make that statement. After that, it’s up to the reader/viewer, and their personal responsibility, if they want to take the time and research to go further. But other than pointing the statement out, I don’t feel it’s my job to cover it in a course. Best!

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  216. Jan Lenting

    I also focus on something in the distance. Works great. I’m going to try the zoom thing. Looks like a great tip. Sometimes it’s difficult finding the bird all zoomed-in.

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  217. Susan Salaniuk

    I find this an excellent way to follow along and learn. Much the way seeing the screen and key strokes in LRC when someone is explaining how to do specific edits rather than just watching the person speak is more effective and if one has the video can easily be reviewed again. Thanks.

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  218. Les C

    Very good and helpful to me especially checking the focus periodically, I have missed lots of birds by not being able to see them in the viewfinder. A lot of trial and error to get a focused shot, thank goodness for continuous shooting

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  219. LeighF

    I think through the camera instruction is the best way to provide students with great information and to teach tips & techniques. Its always easy when you see a video of how to do something, and its only a challenge when you switch on the camera and try to do it. Using this method you provide students with a good learning platform and show exactly what to expect.
    Very helpful and a great methodolgy for your training session, best wishes for success

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  220. Michael

    I think the video showing how to find your subject and acquire focus is very helpful and illustrates both the technique as well as the potential problems you mention. Another landscape/wildlife photographer I follow just released an ebook course on bird-in-flight photography with a section on how to find your subject. Many of the problems you mentioned are discussed, but I think seeing the video illustrating how to do it and the potentials problems is very helpful.

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  221. Zeralda

    I love the in camera viewing. I have been photographing birds in flight for a few years and have had moderate success, even being published in national publications. But i still struggle with focus a lot. Seeing it in action really solidifies the concepts!

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  222. Art

    Thanks Matt

    I like your approach to this subject. Will you be adding info into the course when it comes out on the Shooting Mode, I assume in this sample you were using Aperture Mode to keep the aperture wide open. But what about the Focus Area, there are a couple of different focus area settings, which is best for moving birds? What about Metering mode for moving birds? Do you use Auto White Balance or do you set the White balance to the type of sky (sunny, cloudy) that you are shooting in? I realize that white balance can be totally changed in lightroom so is not as important, but what would you recommend for this setting when shooting to get a closer look to the finished product in camera?

    I see that you have taken a trip recently to South America to photograph Humming Birds, will you do a section in the training on the changes needed to take photos of birds with fast moving wings?

    Will you do a section on how to photograph moving birds while panning the camera to get a sharp image of the bird while getting a motion blurred background that shows motion of the bird in flight?

    Looking forward to you bird in flight training class.

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    • Matt

      Hi Art… whew! Lots of questions ๐Ÿ™‚
      1) I don’t ever recommend Aperture priority. Shutter speed is arguably one of the most important factors in a moving subject photos and in aperture priority you are giving up the control of shutter speed. I cover this extensively in the course.
      2) I do cover metering but not what you think. I simply explain why I don’t change it from matrix/evaluative and illustrate why along with examples of what I do use to get good exposure.
      3) I never change off Auto WB
      4) I photographed the hummers in South Carolina in some one’s backyard. My Costa Rica trip was more monkeys sloths and some birds. But shutter speeds will be covered.
      5) Yes panning is covered.
      Thanks!

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  223. Doug Bank

    I think your perspective is good. But what about other scenarios? The scenario that comes to mind is when I was on a boat near Bear island between the tip of Norway and Svalbard. There were literally tens of thousands of birds. It was difficult to shoot because there were often too many birds in the frame at once, and the camera could easily be confused. Confused because there were multiple subjects, but also because there was often something in the background like a cliff or the water if I was shooting down on the birds. Even worse in that situation is that the birds could easily range from too far to too close very quickly, and it was a challenge because the camera constantly needed to be refocused because I stopped shooting at a close distance and then wanted to start shooting at a far distance only seconds later. Come to think about it, there were lots of times on that trip where a solitary or cluster of birds would be flying by just above the water. It was often a challenge to get the camera to get into and stay in focus with the birds, water, boat and myself all moving at the same time.

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  224. Bill Patterson

    I have found your first approach to be the best for me. 1. The camera on tripod or in hand with viewfinder close and lower than eye 2 . The focus set for medium range to infinity 3. Range set for wide part of telephoto 4. Find the bird in viewfinder and center while zooming and letting the camera find the eyes of the bird by depressing the focus or back button and pressing the shutter as soon as it comes into focus. Since the bird is usually in the center I zoom in a little wide so that cropping is possible.
    Seems like you have to peak over the top of the camera to find your subject first. BIF is really fun

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  225. Bruce

    i think it is valuable to teach using a real life simulation of the problem you are dealing with for inflight wildlife. The second situation i run into all the time and it is a good useful reminder how to get quicker at acquiring focus in situations that happen fairly quickly especially when you have just been taking pics at a much shorter focus distance. As for the first example hopefully you can discuss that situation if you are using a prime lens instead.

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  226. Linda Wise

    This looks like something I would learn from. Anything to help acquire focus quickly and accurately is a “must have” for me.

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  227. John Attley Church

    Good Day Matt

    This video is helpful but only to a limited extent. For larger birds far out, zooming from 200 to 600 once you have it at 200 mm can work when you have time on your side. The biggest difficulty that I have had are birds that are fairly close but you cannot see them until their going by at 100 MPH. For me it is very difficult to raise the camera to your eye and then find a flying bird even at 200 mm starting point. I find using Nikon DF-M1 Dot Sight allows me to have a much broader field of view and can then sight in very quickly.

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  228. Todd Kraenzel

    Matt, this is very helpful for me as well. I can’t think of a better way of demonstrating a technique than seeing what you are seeing through the camera.

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  229. Michael Packman

    I watched your video. I must say … when I’ve been shooting birds, it quickly became apparent that I was having trouble even finding the bird in my view finder. The solution came after a half dozen failed attempts to find the bird, that I needed to go wide in my lens and then narrow down when I found the bird. To me it was a very logical sequence of trial and error attempts that led me to the solution. Your video could have prevented the half dozen failed attempts, but I am finding that once you know your camera somewhat, there are many solutions (or work-arounds) to the many problem you will have in all types of photography; you can either learn through trial and error or via watching photography video tutorials.

    I would be certainly interested in a video that could short-cut many of the photography problems with logical solutions that would avoid the substantial number of failed attempts beforehand, until I got it right.

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  230. D Raulerson

    Thanks for including me in this presentation. I agree that seeing the view through the camera is really helpful. I’m still trying to understand how my D7500 focus settings work and this will help. Most of my bird shots are from my backyard feeder but I have a few nice shots. My hummingbird shots are still challenging but I’ve been researching high speed sync flash so I’m going to work on that as well.

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    • Zeralda

      I love the in camera viewing. I have been photographing birds in flight for a few years and have had moderate success, even being published in national publications. But i still struggle with focus a lot. Seeing it in action really solidifies the concepts!

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  231. Don Fay

    I like the through the camera shots and will buy the course. I just got Steve Perry’s e-book on BIF and it will be interesting to compare your course with his book. I like to read and I also like to watch, so there you go.

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  232. David

    Yes a camera view is both different and useful. I would have a small concern on how brand neutral such a technique would be. In the example you mention the subject disappearing behind an object in the foreground. The settings for this are going to be very camera specific. Is there a settings video for each major brand or is it this is how the Sony settings work and you have to figure it out for your own brand? Overall looking forward to hearing more about the new tutorial content.

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    • Matt

      Hi David. All of the major brands have a setting for this that I cover in the course. Its fairly similar and I give the name of it for Sony, Canon and Nikon. At that point if you have another brand, you can usually figure it out. Thanks.

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      • art

        On the different camera brand settings. Could you provide a Cheat Sheet showing the different settings and then showing the names that each of the Manufacturer uses for that setting?

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  233. Bruce

    In my case, I’m trying to use a Nikon 1m reflex lens — fixed aperture / focal length and manual only focus. I wound up clamping a wide angle spotting scope to get the general direction and finger fiddle the focus as fast as I can. ๐Ÿ™‚

    I’ll have to try this technique on the Tamron 150-600, though it is a bit soft out at 600mm. It will require learning how to get the D810 camera to focus on a moving subject. I read the entire manual a couple of times and don’t remember such a feature.

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    • Matt

      Hi Bruce. I can sum it up for you in two words… Continuous Auto-Focus (well that’s 3 I guess) ๐Ÿ™‚
      Turn it on and your camera will now track a moving subject.

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  234. Nina Cleven

    Always nice to visually see what the photographer is seeing, so I think you have the right approach. Although Iโ€™m not into wildlife photography, I think your course could be very helpful for those who might be thinking about getting into that type of photography. I have found your style of teaching to be very relatable and easy to understand.

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  235. Marcia

    Yes, I like the video looking through the camera. Helps me see what you are talking about. Makes me want to go out and try some bird photos right now.

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  236. Alan Ross

    I think you have the right idea. This is precisely the method I use and the 200-600 makes that technique very easy. My only other comment would be to specify what tracking method you are using. I know itโ€™s Zone but it could also be Zone Tracking which provides less than 30fps on a Sony a1.

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  237. Jan Myers

    Definitely like the through the camera view as you are talking. No need to take time apologizing for samples you are using. We already know you are a great photographer and arenโ€™t judging in that way. Congratulations on the new course! Iโ€™m sure it will be excellent.

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    • Paul Reif

      Agree that pre-focussing at a specific distance in advance of tracking the bird ( Art Morris calls this acquire then fire) is very helpful as well as racking lens focus to the short end of a zoom tele helps find the bird prior to tracking at the longer – desired focal length. Can you discuss what AF tracking you are using such as Zone AF with eye AF vs expanded spot as this has a profound affect on acquiring and seems to vary with the proximity oft the bird. Can you also discuss back button focus using continuous AF vs shutter activated AF. Very helpful

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  238. Brian Duchin

    Matt, A very innovative and helpful method to teach birds in flight tracking by seeing through the viewfinder. I personally retain material when it’s hands on, like your sample video. I have achieved mixed results by zooming out and then in because the dang birds are faster than I can zoom in. I need to find slower birds or speed up my zooming. Thank you for sharing your video and I look forward to the course.

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  239. Christopher Bates

    In the past, I have been stymied by the bird in flight being out of focus. Have to say I nearly gave up trying to capture birds in flight until I learned to prefocus. Your comment about prefocusing your camera is a good practical suggestion.

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  240. Carol Evanger

    Very helpful on capturing a focal distance before focusing on the bird. I have had the blobs myself and struggled to have the camera ‘see’ what I was looking at. Good instruction for something I have never heard discussed. Anticipate the release of the course.

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  241. Ken Warning

    I liked seeing the video through the lens. In addition to acquiring focus and zooming in, you may want to mention or demonstrate zooming out on a bird that is too large in the frame.

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  242. Joseph Candrilli

    Perhaps this is covered earlier in the course, but it is what I struggle with since I recently upgraded to the A7RIV. Are you set up for Bach Button Focus or still tethered to shutter button? I shifted to Back Button Focus a long time ago, but not sure if I should shift back for action/ motion shots such as this. My concern is that I seem to always be holding down the focus anyway for moving shots (not sure if that is correct of if I am forcing the camera to refocus over and over on something it is already tracking). I like the view thru the viewfinder for your teaching style. This is what I would see in the viewfinder so it helps me correlate what I am seeing real time to what you teach.

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  243. John M Vantland

    I have custom settings on my camera, one for perching birds (back button focus, slower shutter speed and lower ISO, single point focus), and other favorite settings. Another custom setting is for BIF that ties the focus to the shutter button, a field of focus points, higher shutter speed, electronic low repetition setting. Another is using Olympus “Pro-capture” where I manual focus, (first back button than minor more critical focus), where I have the camera specifics for the “Pro-capture” allowing for shots before the bird leaves the perch or as the approaching bird lands on the perch. Having these C1 C2 C3 settings allows me to switch quickly between them and have the best of all 3 worlds instantly.

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  244. Brian B

    Like others, I like this, “slice of real life in the field.” As well as providing way to approach and solve challenges. Nice!

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  245. Vic Turczynski

    This does help in answering some questions about acquiring focus on birds in flight.

    Using a combination of the through the camera view and explaining what you are doing to get the picture helps. You can do the through the camera video and then add audio after explaining what and why you are did the shot that way.

    After you show the video you can talk more about what you did and how you achieved the final image.

    Your discussion based video can be enhanced by adding the through the camera video with the explanations of what you did.

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  246. Barbara E. Olk

    Definitely helpful, but I think it would make for a better presentation if you organized it at the beginning to say: (1) there are several ways of maximizing your capture of flying birds, (2) one way is to locate the bird using a wider field of view (e.g., 200 mm) and then zooming in once the bird has been located (e.g., 600 mm), (3) another method of capturing flying birds is to pre-focus on a distant location and then locate a spot where you believe a bird may fly through and then refine focus once you see the bird, and (4) any additional methods you recommend. Then I would show the examples with shots through the camera. In terms of additional matters, I would address whether you ever recommend shooting birds in flight through use of the back screen.

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  247. Neal Abello

    Matt,

    I like the tips so far. I also like the view through the camera since it gives me a reference as to what I’m supposed to see through my camera. I have set my AF-ON button to AF-ON + Tracking. Does that help besides when the bird goes behind a tree or something. I trust that you will be providing a lot of good tips (as always) to gain focus etc. Looking forward to the new course.

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  248. Roger Loeb

    I’m a person who learns most effectively by doing rather than by listening. (I’m also have some attention-deficit disorder, so any form of non-participative learning is difficult.) I like this style of teaching because it shows me clearly how to do it myself. I’m not a bird photographer, but immediately after viewing this video I put my 200-500 on my D850 and went outside to try it out. The hawks were out hunting, which gave me a substantial size bird for my first attempts. Awkward the first couple of tries, but nailed it on the third. Ugly birds once you can see the details ๐Ÿ™‚

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  249. Mike Marston

    This will be very helpful. When I first started shooting BIF I was using single-servo AF mode and group AF area. It was not working out well. Most of my images were out of focus. I did some research and found that the continuous AF mode with the Auto area was best. Since then most of my subjects have been tack sharp. I wish I had seen this video when I started.
    I think using this visual tool will be very helpful for people learning how to shoot BIF. I know that anytime I want to learn about anything, my first stop is YouTube. I am a visual learner. I comprehend and retain more in a 3 minute video than I would by reading a 25 page manual.

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  250. John M Vantland